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« Vastaus #10020 : 17.10.2021, 19:26:21 »
Jos ei halua olla CNN:n, MSNBC:n ja muiden liberaali+wokevasemmistomedioiden uutisoinnin varassa, silloin on hyvä vertailla uutisia yllä mainittujen medioiden julkaisuihin.

Kiinnostuin Newsmaxista sen jälkeen kun FOX on alkanut löystyä ja kuullostaa enemmän valeoppositiolta ja RINO-henkiseltä.

Lisäisin tuohon listaan Breitbartin joka taidetaan tuntea Hommalla yleisesti.

https://www.breitbart.com/
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« Vastaus #10021 : 17.10.2021, 23:45:39 »
Hyvät ihmiset...  :silakka:

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/civil-liberties-are-being-trampled-8bf

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Civil Liberties Are Being Trampled by Exploiting "Insurrection" Fears. Congress's 1/6 Committee May Be the Worst Abuse Yet.
Following the 9/11 script, objections to government overreach in the name of 1/6 are demonized as sympathy for terrorists. But government abuses pose the greater threat.

When a population is placed in a state of sufficiently grave fear and anger regarding a perceived threat, concerns about the constitutionality, legality and morality of measures adopted in the name of punishing the enemy typically disappear. The first priority, indeed the sole priority, is to crush the threat. Questions about the legality of actions ostensibly undertaken against the guilty parties are brushed aside as trivial annoyances at best, or, worse, castigated as efforts to sympathize with and protect those responsible for the danger. When a population is subsumed with pulsating fear and rage, there is little patience for seemingly abstract quibbles about legality or ethics. The craving for punishment, for vengeance, for protection, is visceral and thus easily drowns out cerebral or rational impediments to satiating those primal impulses.

The aftermath of the 9/11 attack provided a vivid illustration of that dynamic. (…)

For many liberals and Democrats in the U.S., 1/6 is the equivalent of 9/11. One need not speculate about that. Many have said this explicitly. Some prominent Democrats in politics and media have even insisted that 1/6 was worse than 9/11.

Joe Biden's speechwriters, when preparing his script for his April address to the Joint Session of Congress, called the three-hour riot “the worst attack on our democracy since the Civil War.” Liberal icon Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY), whose father's legacy was cemented by years of casting 9/11 as the most barbaric attack ever seen, now serves as Vice Chair of the 1/6 Committee; in that role, she proclaimed that the forces behind 1/6 represent “a threat America has never seen before.” (…)

And ever since the pro-Trump crowd was dispersed at the Capitol after a few hours of protests and riots, the same repressive climate that arose after 9/11 has prevailed. Mainstream political and media sectors instantly consecrated the narrative, fully endorsed by the U.S. security state, that the United States was attacked on 1/6 by domestic terrorists bent on insurrection and a coup. They also claimed in unison that the ideology driving those right-wing domestic terrorists now poses the single most dangerous threat to the American homeland, a claim which the intelligence community was making even before 1/6 to argue for a new War on Terror (just as neocons wanted to invade and engineer regime change in Iraq prior to 9/11 and then exploited 9/11 to achieve that long-held goal).

With those extremist and alarming premises fully implanted, there has been little tolerance for questions about whether proposed responses for dealing with the 1/6 “domestic terrorists" and their incomparably dangerous ideology are excessive, illegal, unethical, or unconstitutional. Even before Joe Biden was inaugurated, his senior advisers made clear that one of their top priorities was to enact a bill from Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) — now a member of the Select Committee on 1/6 — to import the first War on Terror onto domestic soil. Even without enactment of a new law, there is no doubt that a second War on Terror, this one domestic, has begun and is growing, all in the name of the 1/6 "Insurrection" and with little dissent or even public debate.

(…)

When it comes to 1/6 and those who were at the Capitol, there is no middle ground. That playbook is not new. "Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists" (…)

The coercive and dissent-squashing power of that binary equation has proven irresistible ever since, spanning myriad political positions and cultural issues. Dr. Ibram X. Kendi's insistence that one either fully embrace what he regards as the program of "anti-racism” or be guilty by definition of supporting racism — that there is no middle ground, no space for neutrality, no room for ambivalence about any of the dogmatic planks — perfectly tracks this manipulative formula. As Dr. Kendi described the binary he seeks to impose: “what I'm trying to do with my work is to really get Americans to eliminate the concept of 'not racist’ from their vocabulary, and realize we're either being racist or anti-racist." Eight months after the 1/6 riot — despite the fact that the only people who died that day were Trump supporters and not anyone they killed — that same binary framework shapes our discourse, with a clear message delivered by those purporting to crush an insurrection and confront domestic terrorism. You're either with us, or with the 1/6 terrorists.

What makes this ongoing prohibition of dissent or even doubt so remarkable is that so many of the responses to 1/6 are precisely the legal and judicial policies that liberals have spent decades denouncing. (…)

Almost immediately after the Capitol riot, some of the most influential Democratic lawmakers — Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and House Homeland Security Committee Chair Bennie Thompson (D-MS), who also now chairs the Select 1/6 Committee — demanded that any participants in the protest be placed on the no-fly list, long regarded as one of the most extreme civil liberties assaults from the first War on Terror. And at least some of the 1/6 protesters have been placed on that list: American citizens, convicted of no crime, prohibited from boarding commercial airplanes based on a vague and unproven assessment, from unseen and unaccountable security state bureaucrats, that they are too dangerous to fly. I reported extensively on the horrors and abuses of the no-fly list as part of the first War on Terror and do not recall a single liberal speaking in defense of that tactic. Yet now that this same brute instrument is being used against Trump supporters, there has not, to my knowledge, been a single prominent liberal raising objections to the resurrection of the no-fly list for American citizens who have been convicted of no crime.


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Glenn Greenwald@ggreenwald

But this Committee is a radical escalation. Not a single US citizen has been charged by the Biden DOJ with sedition, insurrection, or attempted murder or kidnapping. That is what this Committee is for: to treat them as if they have been, to satiate liberal impulses for vengeance.

Menemättä nyt tässä kohtaa siihen, missä määrin tuo 6.1. mellakka oli turvallisuusviranomaisten (ja mätäeliitin) mahdollistama, jopa yllyttämä.
"Tehohoito­paikkojen määrä nostetaan tuhanteen" -Krista Kiuru 19.3.2020

"Hallituksen lupaamat tuhat tehohoitopaikkaa saadaan varmasti kasaan" -Suomen tehohoitoyhdistyksen puheenjohtaja 3.4.2020

"Sen jälkeen kun mennään yli 50 (korona)tehohoitopaikan, ajamme leikkaustoimintaa radikaalisti alas" -Kiuru 25.11.2021

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« Vastaus #10022 : 22.10.2021, 12:05:48 »


"Tehohoito­paikkojen määrä nostetaan tuhanteen" -Krista Kiuru 19.3.2020

"Hallituksen lupaamat tuhat tehohoitopaikkaa saadaan varmasti kasaan" -Suomen tehohoitoyhdistyksen puheenjohtaja 3.4.2020

"Sen jälkeen kun mennään yli 50 (korona)tehohoitopaikan, ajamme leikkaustoimintaa radikaalisti alas" -Kiuru 25.11.2021

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« Vastaus #10023 : 22.10.2021, 15:25:17 »
Oletko nyt lähettänyt niitä todisteita Texasin varakuvernöörille, joka on ilmoittanut maksavansa min. 25000 ja max. miljoonan dollarin palkkioita niille, jotka esittävät todisteita vaalivilpistä (tapausten ei tarvitse olla Texasista):

Lainaus käyttäjältä: CBS News
Texas Lt. Governor Dan Patrick announced Tuesday that he would pay up to $1 million from his campaign account to incentivize, encourage and reward people to come forward and report voter fraud from anywhere in the country, CBS Dallas / Fort Worth reports.

"Whistleblowers and tipsters should turn over their evidence to local law enforcement. Anyone who provides information that leads to an arrest and final conviction of voter fraud will be paid a minimum of $25,000," said Patrick in a news release.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dan-patrick-texas-lt-governor-1-million-reward-voter-fraud-evidence/

Vai eikö ilmainen raha kelpaa? ;D

Tähän päivitys: Texasin varakuvernööri Dan Patrick ei puhunut palturia, vaan on nyt maksanut ensimmäisen 25000 dollarin palkkion vaalivilpin käräyttäjälle -- joka paljasti vaalivilppiin syyllistyneen republikaanin Pennsylvaniassa.

Lainaus käyttäjältä: Dallas Morning News
Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick has paid his first voter fraud bounty. It went to an unexpected recipient

Patrick, a Republican, promised to pay $25,000 to any tipster who came forward with evidence of real voter fraud. He cut his first check this week.

Nearly a year after offering up a hefty bounty for evidence of voter fraud in the wake of Donald Trump’s loss, Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick has handed out his first reward.

But instead of going to an informant who smoked out fraud by Democrats, Patrick’s five-figure payout went to a progressive poll worker in Pennsylvania whose tip led to a single conviction of illegal voting by a registered Republican.

[...] In an interview with The Dallas Morning News, tipster Eric Frank said he would have turned in anyone he saw voting illegally regardless of party. But as the scion of a family of Democratic operatives, he also acknowledged the irony of the situation.

This week, Frank deposited $25,000 of Patrick’s campaign cash into his bank account.

[...] The fifth involved Ralph Thurman, a 72-year-old Republican who Frank turned in after seeing him vote twice on Election Day, once for himself and once for his son, who was a registered Democrat.

[...] Then last month, Thurman pleaded guilty to repeat voting. He was sentenced to three years probation and barred from voting for four years, according to The Philadelphia Inquirer.

[...] After Frank provided some documentation, the Patrick campaign sent him a check for $25,000.
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2021/10/21/texas-lt-gov-dan-patrick-just-paid-his-first-voter-fraud-bounty-it-went-to-an-unlikely-recipient/

Eli nyt tosiaan, mannym ja muut, jos teillä oikeasti on varmaa tietoa vaalivilpistä, niin ei muuta kuin viestiä tuonnepäin, jotta tekin saatte palkkionne.
« Viimeksi muokattu: 22.10.2021, 15:28:42 kirjoittanut Jaakko Sivonen »
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« Vastaus #10024 : 26.10.2021, 01:14:12 »

Darren J. Beattie taas vauhdissa. Joskus kuvittelin, että tuo USAn vasikoimishomma menisi niin, että alempien tasojen toimijoilta pyritään saamaan todisteita ylemmän tason toimijoita vastaan, mutta ilmeisesti se nykyään menee ihan toisin päin...  :flowerhat:  :silakka: Aika pitkä juttu.

Tuohon kun vielä yhdistää Trumpin sivuutetut vaatimukset kansalliskaartin läsnäolosta, Capitolin täysin säälittävän suojauksen kyseisenä päivänä, someyhtiöiden ja viranomaisten tiedot mahdollisista "ongelmista", järkyttävän vääristelyn mellakan luonteesta ja sen, miten mellakkaa tällä hetkellä käytetään poliittisten vastustajien hiljentämiseen ja päähänpotkimiseen, sekä totalitarismin edistämiseen... "Niken kenkälaatikoissa on leipää"-AOChän viimeksi tänään vaati, että kaikki poliitikot, jotka osallistuivat kyseisen päivän Trump Rallyn järjestämiseen, pitää potkia pois kongressista. Päälle 100000 tykkäystä... Kertoi myös, että kyseisenä päivänä kuoli lähes 10 henkilöä...  :silakka:

https://www.revolver.news/2021/10/meet-ray-epps-the-fed-protected-provocateur-who-appears-to-have-led-the-very-first-1-6-attack-on-the-u-s-capitol/

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Meet Ray Epps: The Fed-Protected Provocateur Who Appears To Have Led The Very First 1/6 Attack On The U.S. Capitol
October 25, 2021
In a House hearing on Thursday, Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY) questioned AG Merrick Garland about a mysterious man, Ray Epps, instructing protesters to enter the US Capitol building on January 5, and who later shepherded crowds towards the Capitol on January 6.

(…)

The story of the mystery man, Ray Epps, featured in Rep. Massie’s video above is in fact far more shocking than even the good Congressman implies in the hearing. It’s a story so strange, and so scandalous at every turn, that it threatens to shatter the entire official narrative of the “Capitol Breach” and expose yet another dimension of proactive federal involvement in the so-called “insurrection” of January 6th.

If Revolver News’s previous reporting points to a proactive role of the federal government in relation to the conspiracy cases against Oath Keepers and Proud Boys, the Ray Epps story that follows suggests a similar, yet more egregious, explicit, direct and immediate degree of federal involvement in the breach of the Capitol itself.

(…)

After months of research, Revolver’s investigative reporting team can now reveal that Ray Epps appears to be among the primary orchestrators of the very first breach of the Capitol’s police barricades at 12:50pm on January 6. Epps appears to have led the “breach team” that committed the very first illegal acts on that fateful day. What’s more, Epps and his “breach team” did all their dirty work with 10 minutes still remaining in President Trump’s National Mall speech, and with the vast majority of Trump supporters still 30 minutes away from the Capitol.

Secondly, Revolver also determined, and will prove below, that the the FBI stealthily removed Ray Epps from its Capitol Violence Most Wanted List on July 1, just one day after Revolver exposed the inexplicable and puzzlesome FBI protection of known Epps associate and Oath Keepers leader Stewart Rhodes. July 1 was also just one day after separate New York Times report amplified a glaring, falsifiable lie about Epps’s role in the events of January 6.

Lastly, Ray Epps appears to have worked alongside several individuals — many of them suspiciously unindicted — to carry out a breach of the police barricades that induced a subsequent flood of unsuspecting MAGA protesters to unwittingly trespass on Capitol restricted grounds and place themselves in legal jeopardy.

(…)

The video below compiles shortened versions of five separate exchanges involving Epps at various hours during the night of January 5 and afternoon of January 6.

As you process the video above and the information to follow, it is important to keep in mind: Ray Epps is a free man. He has never been arrested or charged. Nearly 10 months after January 6, the FBI and Justice Department still refuse to comment on whether Epps has ever been served a search warrant.

But we do know that at least rank-and-file FBI investigators were intensely interested in Ray Epps in the immediate aftermath of January 6.

By January 8, the FBI Capitol Violence Most Wanted List featured a big fat friendly face shot of Ray Epps. The FBI’s Washington Field Office, in a tweet the same day, called for the public’s help in identifying Epps. Epps, dressed in full camo with a bright red “Trump” hat, is the FBI’s “Suspect 16” in the bottom-left quadrant of both images reproduced below:

For your edification, we matched FBI Suspect Photo #16 to the timestamp 0:48 of the full barricade breach source video:

There are currently 486 suspects in the FBI’s Capitol Violence Most Wanted list. The fact that Ray Epps was one of the first 20 suspects the FBI ever publicly featured on its “be on the lookout” boards and “Most Wanted” lists reveals just how high a priority the FBI’s rank-and-file investigators considered Epps to be.

So to recap, on January 8, the FBI begged the public’s help to identify the mysterious “Person #16.”

Then, a funny thing happened: the public actually delivered.

(…)

Within days of the riot at the Capitol, archives quickly swelled with videos and images of Epps.

Ray Epps played two roles in virtually every encounter during his Commando Capitol Tour on January 6.

First, Epps instructed his commandos and the crowds at his attention to rush into the Capitol and let nothing stop them. Second, Epps assiduously protected cops and law enforcement so no local or federal officers would be harmed during the precision breaches.

(…)

So on January 8, 2021, the FBI begged the public for information regarding the identity of Suspect 16, Ray Epps, and even offered a cash reward.

The public obliged, and in less than three days, Ray Epps was identified as Suspect 16. Researchers corroborated his identity with troves of unassailable direct evidence, including an effective confession from Epps himself to his own local newspaper.

Then, for nearly six months, amidst the biggest manhunt in American history, the FBI did nothing with this information. As the FBI did nothing on Epps, it was simultaneously investigating, arresting, raiding and imprisoning hundreds of completely benign MAGA moms and social media trolls — mostly for minor misdemeanor trespassing charges.

Then, on July 1, between the hours of 3:37 a.m. and 5:55 p.m., the FBI finally took action on Ray Epps. But not to prosecute him, or to announce a sweeping investigation or FBI SWAT raid on Epps’s house for all of his phones and electronics. Instead, someone at the FBI quietly and stealthily purged every trace of Ray Epps from the Capitol Riots Most Wanted database.

(…)

On, July 1, Ray Epps, Suspect 16, was disappeared, as if he never existed.

Now let’s be clear: Ray Epps was not purged because he was arrested. If Epps was arrested, the FBI Wanted List would have the caption “ARRESTED” affixed to his picture, as you can plainly see is done for all other arrested suspects in the database itself.

Further, the searchable Justive.Gov Capitol Breach Cases database confirms there are no case dockets or filings for any “Epps” at all.

To anyone checking the January 6 FBI Most Wanted List today, “Suspect 16” is just a ghost. Only obsessive, fastidious Wayback Machine users spending hours pouring through archived screenshots could ever forensically confirm Ray Epps was ever really a Wanted Man.

The question then arises: what prompted the FBI’s six-month slumber on Epps, and then their sudden purger on July 1?

Well, they panicked. Two major media reports (discussed below) came out on June 30, each of which touched the Ray Epps “Third Rail” from different angles, and the FBI likely realized it was no longer safe to maintain a digital record acknowledging they ever knew who this guy was. Then, the FBI hoped no one would notice the purged files, or would either politely look away or actively assist with their cover-up.

(…)

The NYT appears to be running cover for the FBI by referencing Epps’s appearance in “widely-circulated videos” and concluding that he “seemed to have acted on his own.”

This media malpractice NYT cover-up lie could not be further from the truth.

Below, we see Epps give explicit instructions, mere minutes before the very first breach of a police barricade on January 6. He gives these instructions to a still-unindicted, still “FBI Wanted” ex-Marine commando nicknamed “MaroonPB” who is antagonizing police officers with a blazing bullhorn.

After receiving instructions from Epps, MaroonPB replies, “Noted” — which, last we checked, means “stipulated”, “understood” or “agreed.” This is an explicit verbal agreement between two or more people — the opposite of the NYT’s claim that Epps “acted on his own.”

In case it wasn’t clear enough already, Epps also says “One more thing” — stipulating he gave the man a set of instructions before adding others. And those next instructions were, “When we go in, leave this here,” likely in reference to MaroonPB’s cannister of bear spray.

(…)

Also on June 30th, Revolver published a bombshell report exploring the extraordinary degree of federal protection afforded to founder and leader of the Oath Keepers militia, a man named Stewart Rhodes. This is the second of the aforementioned two pieces that likely triggered the FBI’s freakout.

A recent Revolver update on the inexplicable FBI protection of Stewart Rhodes recaps the strange situation.

Prosecutors argue it was:

    Rhodes who established the Oath Keepers conspiracy;
    Rhodes who recruited people into the conspiracy;
    Rhodes who organized and gave key instructions to the conspirators;
    Rhodes who suggested the use of illegal weapons such as “collapsible batons”;
    Rhodes who activated the conspiracy in real-time on January 6 via text messages and phone calls to his lieutenants from 1:38 – 2:40 p.m..;
    Rhodes who waited on the Capitol steps for the completion of the conspiracy from approximately 3:30-4:00 p.m..; and
    Rhodes who later congratulated everyone on a conspiracy well done at 7:14 p.m.


Furthermore,

    The Oath Keepers indictment cites 18 phone calls as evidence of coordination of a common conspiracy (for those following along, these calls are in paragraphs 105, 107, 108, 113, 114, 116, 118, 122, 123, 125, 126, 130, 134, 135, 138, 174, 175, and 176).
    Stewart Rhodes is the person either calling or being called in 10 of these 18 calls. Put another way: Rhodes makes or receives 55% of all phone calls in a massive conspiracy case spanning 16 defendants.
    When you combine phone calls involving Rhodes and those involving the mysteriously unindicted Person Ten, who Rhodes appointed his ground commander for the day, that number rises to 100% of all phone calls.

So what exactly does the curious case of Stewart Rhodes have to do with Ray Epps?

Students of FBI history should quickly absorb the lesson that infiltrating Feds are like roaches: whenever you spot one, it is guaranteed there are dozens others nearby. Feds simply never, ever, operate alone. This is how you end up with at least 12 FBI informants in a tiny “right-wing” Michigan militia plot from October 2020 (that’s just informants, not even agents), 15 informants in the “right-wing” 2016 Malheur plot, dozens in the 2014 Bundy Ranch affair — including six FBI undercover agents posing as fake documentarians shooting a fake documentary — and the list goes on.

You’ll be shocked, then, to learn that the Oath Keepers sport an eye-poppingly long history of FBI infiltration.

And lo and below, Ray Epps and Oath Keepers kingpin Stewart Rhodes are old pals in the organization. In fact, Stewart Rhodes was Ray Epps’s old boss. Back in 2011-2012, Epps was the Arizona state chapter leader of the Oath Keepers — the biggest Oath Keepers chapter in the country — while Rhodes was and remains the national leader. (See, e.g., archived proof of Epps as Arizona Oath Keeper President here, here and here.) (…)

Oddly, Stewart Rhodes’s website OathKeepers.org deleted several historical blog posts featuring events run by Ray Epps, where Epps was listed as both President and Press Contact.

The Wayback Machine’s automatic archiving process suggests Stewart Rhodes’s OathKeepers.org posts concerning Ray Epps were effectively dormant from 2011 until 2021. Then, at approximately 3 p.m. on January 27, 2021, there is an update showing the page had been 404’d.

January 27 is less than three weeks after Ray Epps was added to the FBI’s January 6 Most Wanted List. January 27 is also the same day the very first criminal indictment against the Oath Keepers was unsealed and made available to the public.

Here you can see Ray Epps and Stewart Rhodes marching side by side at a march they organized, while Epps was in charge of Arizona. (…)

Epps’s Actions On January 5

We will now review a series of clips which run from approximately 10:30 p.m.- midnight on the evening of January 5. The scenes depicted in the following clips all occurred in the newly named Black Lives Matter Plaza at 16th St NW in DC — just blocks from the White House.

There, Trump supporters from around the country who had flown in for the protest gathered together. They had just been separated from Antifa/BLM counter-protesters, some of whom had been violently attacking Trump supporters that strayed from the main crowd. Some Trump supporters, including isolated women, were beaten senseless and bloody on the street, and the crowd was particularly agitated as a result. You’ll hear the forthcoming clip begin with a Trump supporter saying “They’re not Americans, they’re terrorists,” referring to the Antifa/BLM group that attacked them.

There was a very West Side Story feel to the two gangs being separated by a police line. But on the Trump side, Ray Epps held court, and he instructed the Trump crowd to redirect their energies away from counter-protesters, and join his plot to go inside the Capitol the next day instead.

(…)

January 6, after all, was scheduled as a Trump rally. In the 323 rallies before Trump took office, and the 168 rallies thereafter, there had never been a single instance of rioting or pre-planned illegal activity.

Lawbreaking was 0 for 491 at Trump rallies before January 6.


Perhaps this extraordinarily track record of physical restraint explains why Epps’s arrest-bait proposal stood out like a sore thumb, and why he was quickly shouted down.

But that above encounter was not the first time on January 5 that Epps held court in a crowded gathering, demanding everyone in earshot rush the Capitol the next day. In the following clip, from slightly earlier in the evening, Epps gives the same exact spiel, almost as if his lines were practiced and rehearsed. Note how Epps deploys the same preface of “I probably shouldn’t say this because I’ll probably get arrested” before making his same Capitol-invasion pitch, and delivers the same theatrical pause after “in” when he tells them: “We need to go in to the Capitol.”

In every instance, Epps barges into other people’s conversations, wholly unwanted, to make his appeal.

Trump supporters became so hostile towards Epps that they became openly disrespectful. This disrespect, in turn, elicited a sympathetic rejoinder from other Trump supporters, who appealed that Epps should be “thanked for his service.” After all, Ray Epps had been telling everyone within earshot that night that he had been a Sergeant in the Marines — which naturally appeals to the charity and gratitude that most Trump supporters extend toward any man or woman who has served the country in uniform.

(…)

And this brings us back to Marine Sergeant Ray Epps. Some protesters in the plaza were mad at Biden. Some were mad at BLM and Antifa. Some were mad at George Soros. Some were mad about Covid restrictions. Some were mad about election fraud. Some weren’t even mad — they just loved Trump and thought the event looked fun.

Yet Epps was insistent that everyone stay focused on a common mission: storming the Capitol. On multiple livestreams, Epps moves from group to group throughout the plaza, barging in and insisting everyone “stay focused” on “what we’re here for” — which he would then explain meant going inside the US Capitol building. When asked to give a reason for his crazy plot, Epps would continually fall back on his catch-all rationale: “It’s about the Constitution.”

(…)

This same cycle repeated itself again and again during Epps’s 90-minute excursion in the plaza, as he moved from group to group, getting them “focused” on the mission for the next day. Whenever a different speaker or conversationalist aired a different grievance against any MAGA adversary, Epps would insist: “We’re here for another reason.”

(…)

It’s hard to find a genuinely peaceful MAGA protester who has been treated so kindly by the Justice Department. For example, the aforementioned Oath Keeper and Green Beret veteran Jeremy Brown is being held behind bars, his bail denied until trial, simply for standing 100 feet too close to the Capitol steps. To reiterate, Brown — unlike John Sullivan — never even went inside the Capitol on January 6.

Turning back to the Ray Epps – John Sullivan video clip above, it is remarkable to see Epps — a man kicked out of two group conversations by Trump supporters on accusations of being a Fed — and John Sullivan — a man kicked out of two cities by Antifa groups on accusations of being a Fed — sharing the same video frame, in the same group conversation, on the same night.

And in that clip, Epps proposes such cartoonishly illegal activities that even John Sullivan jokes Ray Epps is on “some undercover agent type shit.”

The simultaneous presence of both Epps and Sullivan at the same place, at the same time, in the exact same conversation circle, suggests the possibility these two were not there by accident, but rather were instructed or encouraged by handlers to go out and — as FBI Special Agent Impola instructed his assets in the Michigan Plot — “Maximize Attendance.”

Epps’s singular focus on storming the Capitol was as remarkable as it was out-of-step with the agenda of everyone around him.

In this clip, for instance, Ray Epps senses that some Trump supporters may be antagonizing police, and he rushes over to back them away. Later in the conversation, some Black Lives Matter members approach the crowd of Trump supporters, and Ray Epps makes the same pitch to the BLM supporters about their common purpose with Trump supporters, and the 1/6 protest being “about the Constitution.” Epps’s strange behavior, naturally, drew antagonism from some on the Trump side, who were confused as why Epps was kissing up to BLM.

Indeed, Ray Epps was a man on a mission. And that mission appears to involve not hurting cops or get in tangles with BLM and Antifa. That mission appears to be to get as many Trump supporters as possible to storm the Capitol. (…)

Epps’s Actions On January 6: 12:24pm-12:50pm

(…)

In this clip, Epps bellows that “After the speech, we are going to the Capitol. Where our problems are.” Before Epps departs for the Capitol himself, he wants to make sure he has done everything in his power to maximize attendance at the Capitol after President Trump’s speech. Note also how no one else around him, in the thousands in the crowd, is doing anything remotely provacateuring, or even mentioning the Capitol as a site of possible unrest.

Described below, Epps appears to have led the “breach team” that took down the very first police barricades of the day, overran the very first police officers, and opened the floodgates for thousands of Trump supporters to walk onto restricted Capitol grounds past the barricades. Because those barricades were quickly removed, and there was no other signage or reason to know that those ordinarily public grounds were restricted for the day, Ray Epps was part of the initial squad that led men like Jeremy Brown — charged for misdemeanor trespassing — to unwittingly walk into a booby trap.

(…)

Epps’s Actions On January 6: 12:50pm – The Leader Of “Breach Team 6”

We now come to perhaps the two most important clips of this report: the footage that appears to depict Epps directing a number of men in the very first attack on the Capitol that fateful day.

Researchers refer to the gang who took orchestrated this kick-off attack as #BreachTeam6. The nickname is wordplay on the elite “Seal Team 6” said to have carried out the 2011 raid on Osama Bin Laden.

Researchers have assigned nicknames to all the main characters involved in Breach Team 6. Many, if not most, remain mysteriously unnamed, unidentified and unindicted ten months after the fact.

Our main character, Ray Epps, AKA #BigMAGACamo,appears to be the team leader of Breach Team 6 on the ground.

To be clear: the claim that this ~12:50 p.m. attack was the very first attack on January 6, kicking off the entire “riot,” is not a claim made by Revolver. It’s the claim made by the The New York Times, the Justice Department, and all other “official” pundits of the 1/6 commentariat.

(…)

In this clip, which we played above but will now be analyzed in depth, Ray Epps is providing instructions to a man the FBI still lists in its Most Wanted database as “Suspect 273.” Researchers give Suspect 273 the moniker “#MaroonPB”, as he is seen marching with Proud Boys both on January 6 and at the earlier December 12 and November 14 Stop The Steal rallies, and is wearing maroon during the Capitol raid.

(…)

Ray Epps and MaroonPB

The still-unidentified man known as MaroonPB is no small player in the major events of January 6. According to the FBI, MaroonPB coordinates the breaches of both sides of the US Capitol building, directs members of his team into restricted areas, physically removes police barricades, and even runs around the US Capitol building, entering Senators’ offices, armed with bear mace the whole time. He penetrated the doors of the Capitol just seven minutes before Ashli Babbitt was shot, according to the FBI:

    On January 6th, this individual can be seen communicating with others and initiating breach of the West side of the U.S. Capitol. He then moves to the East side to assist with the breach, moving barricades and directing people inside the restricted area. 273 enters into Capitol at approximately 2:38 PM at the East doors, seen with a can of mace/bear spray, and posing while holding Trump flag. Call 1-800-CALL-FBI or visit tips.fbi.gov to submit information.

This is all stipulated by the FBI, and he is on tape taking orders from Ray Epps just minutes before he kicks it all off. And yet the FBI has issued no arrests, and not even the announcement of a search warrant.

(…)

Just like Ray Epps, MaroonPB repeatedly cites the exact same “It’s about the Constitution” line. (…)

Just like Ray Epps, MaroonPB is ex-military. Both men are former Marines. (…)

Also, note that MaroonPB seems to hop from breach to breach throughout January 6, being in the lead at multiple different breach locations the very minute they are happening for the first time — on both sides of the Capitol.

With all these actions and calls to invade the Capitol, MaroonPB is practically Ray Epps’s Mini-Me.

(…)

But perhaps the shocking fact about MaroonPB is this: It is inconceivable — one might say verging on genuinely impossible — that the FBI does not know who MaroonPB is.

(…)

The FBI already has in its MaroonPB file what can only be described as the world’s most perfect, well-preserved, crystalline set of doxxing information any domestic intelligence service in the world could possibly pray to the Surveillance State Gods for.

The FBI “Wanted” page for him has several big fat full face shots, maskless, complete with unmistakably unique knuckle tattoos, as well as two full tattoo sleeves.

You can literally read his knuckle tattoos.
That’s how HD and pristine these photos are. That shirt says “Marines” by the way, just like Ray Epps, and just like Ryan Samsel (discussed below).

The FBI even has multiple side profiles and 4K HD headshots of our Most Wanted Man smiling for the camera, complete with his already-doxxed network of Proud Boys with whom MaroonPB marched in November, again in December and finally again on January 6.

Do we need to spell out how easy it should be for the FBI to identify this man?


There is even a dazzling video archive of MaroonPB — already sent to the FBI by left-wing researchers in case they missed it — with dozens of detailed videos tracking MaroonPB’s every association and every move from January 5-6, as well as November and December.

It’s not like the man Ray Epps was ordering around is a low-priority target. In addition to MaroonPB working with Epps and Breach Team 6 to cause multiple police barricades to be overrun, we have MaroonPB hurling himself through the main Columbus doors of the Capitol at 2:38pm, just two minutes ahead of the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys (…)

So with the US intelligence and security state’s panopticon’s facial ID programs, its infinite phone sweep and search warrant access, its pervasive shakedown powers, as well as a completely ridiculous quantity of high resolution photos and 4K HD videos of MaroonPB trouncing about face-unmasked, knuckle tatts bared, arm tattoo sleeves rolled, do you really think the FBI does not know the identity of this man?

Yet this man, who on video claims to be one of “about a dozen or so” of the earliest barricade-breachers, is still chilling on the Most Wanted list, despite pulling the almost impossible hat trick of initiating two separate Capitol door breaches, trouncing through Senators officers, and being Platinum Tier Most Wanted Hall-Of-Famer for helping kick the entire Capitol riot off in the first place.

Other than Ray Epps and a small handful of others, it’s hard to find a man with a more decorated “insurrection” resume than the young man smiling down on you from the safety of the FBI Most Wanted list.

Here’s a question we’d like to see Merrick Garland dodge: Mr. Garland, is there now, and has there ever been, any individual(s) who appeared on the Capitol Violence Most Wanted List whose activities at the Capitol turned out to be part of their work as agents or assets of a US government agency?

Garland cannot fall back on that question probing to an ongoing investigation. We’re not asking about an investigation. We’re asking a process question related to the FBI’s decision-making process for adding individuals to its Most Wanted list.

We know from the past that the FBI does put people on the Most Wanted List who later turn out to be the FBI’s own informants and operatives. Just a few short years ago, the FBI put crime boss Whitey Bulger atop the FBI Wanted List for 11 separate murders — while simultaneously listing him in their own special access internal files as a confidential government informant, who regularly reported to a Special Agent handler, despite being a “Wanted” man. The FBI’s internal files on Bulger were only accessible by the FBI Field Office’s Special Agent-in-Charge and a small handful of select assistants — meaning the FBI’s rank-and-file thought Bulger was a top criminal they were pursuing, while the upper ranks stymied investigations because Bulger was a confidential human source they were protecting.

If the FBI rather recently reserved the #2 slot on the Most Wanted List (behind only Osama Bin Laden) for one of its own insider confidential operatives, and compartmentalized access to that knowledge such that even most of the FBI didn’t know what was going on at the time, can anyone possibly trust the FBI to report accurate information on January 6?

Is this why the information coming out of the FBI out January 6 is constantly so schizophrenic and self-contradicting?

(…)

Ray Epps and Ryan Samsel

So at 12:53 p.m., the is the “Big Bang” sequence of January 6 explodes. It’s the exact moment of the first police barricade breach, and the start of the riot:

As noted above, the New York Times and the Justice Department blame Ryan Samsel for starting the riot, and ignore the fact that just 2.6 seconds earlier, Samsel appeared to be taking explicit directions from Ray Epps – just like MaroonPB was.

(…)

The FBI identified Samsel as Most Wanted Suspect # 51, and researchers refer to him as #WhiteHoodie.

Samsel is one of just a small handful of men involved in the “breach team” that have actually been arrested. Samsel’s arrest came fairly quickly, just three weeks after January 6. The strange and continuing inability of the FBI to identify or charge the overwhelming majority of the “breach team” leaders, and their monomaniacal focus on Samsel, suggests the fix may have been in for Samsel days or weeks in advance— much like the fix was in for troubled defendant Adam Fox in the 46% Fed-saturated Michigan Plot.

And Samsel, a 37 year-old Pennsylvanian, does appear to be a quite troubled man. Nevertheless, the story of what has happened to him in prison after January 6 is rather telling.

According to Samsel’s attorney, Samsel has been subjected to what can only be described as an American-soil Abu Ghraib-style torture and beatdown: Prison guards zip-tied Samsel’s hands before breaking his bones and giving him life-long injuries, including a shattered orbital floor, a broken orbital bone, a broken jaw, and a broke nose. His right eye was rendered useless and he may end up permanently blind on that side

All of this from torture-beatings by prison guards.

On top of it, Samsel’s legal scalp has been hoisted for ceremonial victory parades by the Justice Department. Even the typically prosecution-maximalist New York Times reporter Alan Feuer appeared confused as to why the Justice Department so theatrically singled out Samsel for a special press release simply for upgrading his charges in April:

Curiously, despite Samsel’s noted connections to the Proud Boys, and the FBI affidavit’s stipulation that Samsel was coordinating by phone with others about his plans in the days leading up to January 6, the DOJ has opted to quarantine Samsel from the Proud Boys case, and not pursue conspiracy charges against Samsel at all.

(…)

Conclusion

(…)

The case of “mere” Federal foreknowledge of the so-called “siege on the Capitol” is bad enough, and amounts to a national scandal in its own right. Indeed, if elements of the federal government knew in advance of conspiracies to “siege the Capitol” or otherwise disrupt the Senate proceeding on 1/6, the natural question arises as to why they did nothing to stop it. Given that the government and their allies in the Regime media have framed 1/6 as a 9/11-caliber domestic terror event, the possibility that elements of the federal government knew about it in advance, and yet sat back and let it happen for political purposes, is incredibly damning. This would amount to nothing less than the government conspiring, for the most malicious of political reasons, to falsely cast tens of millions of law-abiding patriotic Americans as domestic terrorists.

(…)

Revolver News’s ground-breaking investigative reporting on 1/6 has from the very beginning suggested something far darker than federal foreknowledge. Instead of simply having “visibility” in advance to the events of 1/6 and doing nothing to stop it, Revolver has pointed to overwhelming evidence suggesting a much more proactive, participatory role on the part of the federal government.

Our first piece noted that while many minor militia members and fellow-travelers face serious conspiracy charges, several more senior militia members involved in the same activity (often more egregiously so) and referenced in the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys conspiracy charging documents remain mysteriously unindicted.

(…)

As dark and scandalous as this is, the notion that the federal government’s agents would take a proactive and participatory role in 1/6 tracks far closely with what we now know to have been the role of federal agents and informants in the so-called Michigan Kidnapping Plot, just months before the so called 1/6 “insurrection.”

(…)

Given this background, we are in a better position to understand where this latest piece on Ray Epps fits into the broader narrative collapse of 1/6. If Revolver News’s previous reporting points to a proactive role of the federal government in relation to the conspiracy cases against Oath Keepers and Proud Boys, the Ray Epps story seems to suggest a similar, yet more egregious, explicit, direct and immediate degree of federal involvement in the breach of the Capitol itself.

Indeed, there is one individual who is on tape encouraging the crowd to go into the Capitol the evening before 1/6. That very same individual is seen throughout 1/6 corralling people toward the Capitol “where our problems are.” And that very same individual is on camera whispering into the ears of the men who committed the very first illegal acts of 1/6 by breaking down the barricades. And yet, just like Oath Keeper founder and head Stewart Rhodes, this individual, whom we now know to be Ray Epps, so far has enjoyed an inexplicable protection from prosecution.

Even more damningly, Revolver has confirmed that the FBI scrubbed Epps from their public Most Wanted database just one day after Revolver News’s damning investigative report on Epps’ fellow Oath Keeper Stewart Rhodes.

The story of Epps and other suspiciously un-indicted apparent accomplices such as “Maroon PB” suggest a far more extensive degree of proactive federal involvement in 1/6 than even Revolver News had originally anticipated.

And yet, tying it all back to AG Merrick Garland, it all makes sense. The 1/6 prosecutions are not the first time Garland oversaw high profile militia prosecutions from a lofty perch in the DOJ. More specifically, Merrick Garland oversaw the Oklahoma City Bombing prosecutions, which are riddled with so many disturbing unanswered questions that it would be outside the scope of this report to address them. Suffice it to say here that Merrick Garland was the top domestic extremism prosecutor for the Justice Department, who worked with the FBI on several key right-wing militia cases, right as the Justice Department was kicking its militia infiltration operations into high gear. (…)

In light of the overwhelming weight of evidence, this damning conclusion seems unavoidable. We don’t expect a straight answer from AG Garland or FBI Director Wray on this matter just yet, and neither should you. Such answers only come with sufficient pressure, and such pressure only arises from repeated exposure.

What we can guarantee is that Revolver News will continue to expose the lies behind the government and regime media’s false narrative of 1/6. There is so much more to be revealed, and we’re just getting started.

Stay tuned for the next major piece, coming very soon.
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« Vastaus #10025 : 28.10.2021, 16:14:55 »
^ Siellä se Ray vaan huristelee, vapaana miehenä. Kovin hiljaiseksi on myös kaveri mennyt, vaikka 5.-6.1. oli aika paljonkin sanottavaa.

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« Vastaus #10026 : 28.10.2021, 20:47:04 »
Wisconsinin Racine Countyn sheriffillä on jotain sanomista kaikkien aikojen rehellisimmistä vaaleista. Videota en ole vielä itse katsonut, mutta varmaan tuossa vahvistetaan Brandonin voitto.

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STURTEVANT, WI: SHERIFF TO ANNOUNCE PROOF OF STATE-WIDE ELECTION LAW VIOLATIONS Sheriff Christopher Schmaling will unveil the results of an extensive investigation with implications throughout Racine County and Wisconsin.  At the conclusion of the presentation, Sheriff Schmaling and the lead investigator will be available to answer questions and provide documentation.  The news conference will be on Thursday, October 28, 2021, at 11:00 a.m., at the Sheriff’s sub-station, which is located at 14116 Washington Ave., Sturtevant, WI.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wklBQjRWuAs

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https://www.facebook.com/RacineCountySheriffsOffice
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« Vastaus #10027 : 04.11.2021, 22:55:00 »
Racine Countyn tilanteeseen päivitystä:
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UPDATE TO THE VOTER INTEGRITY INVESTIGATION:
Sheriff Schmaling stated, based upon multiple questions from various news organizations concerning the status of the Voter Integrity investigation that was explained in a news conference on October 28, 2021, the Sheriff’s Office is again calling on Attorney General Josh Kaul to conduct a statewide investigation into the illegal directives issued by the Wisconsin Election Commission.  In the directives, the Wisconsin Election Commission ordered the voting clerks in every municipality in the state to “not use the Special Voting Deputy ‘process’” as required by Wis. Stat. § 6.875.
Based upon the failure of Attorney General Josh Kaul to initiate a statewide investigation, I have forwarded charging recommendations to the Racine County District Attorney’s Office for their review.  The recommended charges are for Commissioners Margaret Bostelmann, Julie Glancey, Ann Jacobs, Dean Knudson, and Mark Thomsen. 
The recommended charges are the same for each commissioner, and include:
• Misconduct in Public Office in violation of Wis. Stat. § 946.12(2) (Felony)
• Election Fraud – Election Official Assisting with Violations in violation of Wis. Stat. § 12.13(2)(b)7 (Felony)
• Party to the Crime of Election Fraud – Receive Ballot Non-Election Official in violation of Wis. Stat. § 12.13(3)(n) (Misdemeanor)
• Party to the Crime of Election Fraud – Illegal Ballot Receipt in violation of Wis. Stat. § 12.13(3)(p) (Misdemeanor)
• Party to the Crime of Election Fraud – Solicit Assistance in violation of Wis. Stat. § 12.13(3)(s) (Misdemeanor)
The reasons for the recommended charges were clearly explained during the October 28, 2021, news conference and in the supporting documentation.           

https://www.facebook.com/RacineCountySheriffsOffice

Koska AG Josh Kaul ei ole halunnut käynnistää osavaltion laajuista tutkintaa vaalilautakunnan antamista laittomista ohjeista, on sheriffi toimittanut syytesuositukset piirikunnan syyttäjävirastolle. Syytteitä suositellaan komission jäsenille Margaret Bostelmannille, Julie Glanceylle, Ann Jacobsille, Dean Knudsonille ja Mark Thomsenille.
Wisconsinin vaalilautakunta rikkoi osavaltion lakia osavaltionlaajuisessa hoitokotien äänestyshuijauksessa.

Arvatkaapas mitä puoluetta Josh Kaul edustaa?
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« Vastaus #10028 : 05.11.2021, 14:56:32 »
Yhdysvaltojen politiikkaan epäselvää legitimiteettiä tuottavan sekavuuden ratkaisemiseksi Yhdysvaltojen täytyy harkita kirjoittaa uusi perustuslaki, joka säätää suorat presidentinvaalit ja, joka parantaa äänien laskemisen seurantaa
Jäljentävä paperi äänestyslapun alla on äänestäjän kuitti
Provosoiminen on toimintaa, jonka tavoitteena on negatiivinen reaktio (omalla vastuulla)
Pelkureilla ei ole demokratiaa

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« Vastaus #10029 : 05.11.2021, 15:08:26 »
Yhdysvaltojen politiikkaan epäselvää legitimiteettiä tuottavan sekavuuden ratkaisemiseksi Yhdysvaltojen täytyy harkita kirjoittaa uusi perustuslaki, joka säätää suorat presidentinvaalit ja, joka parantaa äänien laskemisen seurantaa

Miten arvioisit, kumpi yhdysvaltalaisille on merkityksellisempi, presidentti vai perustuslaki?

Kumpaa siis vaihdetaan ensin? Vai äänten laskemisen seurantaa?
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« Vastaus #10030 : 05.11.2021, 17:16:18 »
Yhdysvaltojen politiikkaan epäselvää legitimiteettiä tuottavan sekavuuden ratkaisemiseksi Yhdysvaltojen täytyy harkita kirjoittaa uusi perustuslaki, joka säätää suorat presidentinvaalit ja, joka parantaa äänien laskemisen seurantaa

Tälläisenä aikana ei kannata koskea mihinkään lakeihin. Ongelma ei ole laissa, vaan korruptiossa.

Mikään järjestelmä ei estä korruptiota, vain ihmisten rohkeus voi sen tehdä.

Vaalivilppi oli täysin selvitettävissä. Oli kaikki tarvittavat väylät asian ratkaisemiseksi. Kaikki tarvittavat pillit asian pysäyttämiseksi, mutta korruptio oli liian laajaa kaikissa muodoissaan.

Moni on ihmetellyt miksi Trump ei antanut kaikille epäilyttäville henkilöille kenkää, mutta huomauttaisin, että edes diktaattorit eivät ole siinä koskaan täysin onnistuneet. Joskus sairas jalkakin on parempi kuin ei jalkaa ollenkaan. Sitä paitsi, mitä sanotaan ystävistä ja vihollisista?
Sosialismi on kuin juna. Kun se kerran on lähtenyt kohti helvettiä, joka on brändätty uusin nimin, ei sitä pysäytä mikään muu kuin raiteilta suistaminen, mutta sekin tragedia on parempi kuin helvetti, johon matka muuten päätyisi.

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« Vastaus #10031 : 05.11.2021, 19:36:02 »
Yhdysvaltojen politiikkaan epäselvää legitimiteettiä tuottavan sekavuuden ratkaisemiseksi Yhdysvaltojen täytyy harkita kirjoittaa uusi perustuslaki, joka säätää suorat presidentinvaalit ja, joka parantaa äänien laskemisen seurantaa

Tarkoitatko suoraa kansanvaalia? Siinä olisi se ongelma että jokin Kalifornian ja New Yorkin ja parin muun suuren osavaltion suurkaupungit päättäisivät kenestä tulee presidentti.

Do You Understand the Electoral College?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6s7jB6-GoU

The Popular Vote vs. the Electoral College
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXnjGD7j2B0

Why the Electoral College is Essential
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFGhX0hLy6E

Suurimmat ongelmat ovat äänestysprosessissa. Ensimmäinen on se kun ei vaadita henkkaria, tällöin äänen voi antaa laiton siirtolainen tai henkilö joka ei ole enää kirjoilla osavaltiossa. Pitäis ensinnäkin vaatia henkkari että voi tarkistaa onko henkilö äänioikeutettujen luettelossa. Lisäksi äänten keräily eli ballot harvesting pitäisi kieltää. Kolmas on että postiäänestystä ei pitäisi sallia muuten kuin sellaiselta joka on etukäteen anonut sitä virallisesti. Neljäs on se että vaalipäivän takarajakellonajan jälkeen saapuita postiääniä ei pidä hyväksyä annetuiksi ääniksi. Annettu ääni tulee siis hyväksyä vain äänioikeutetulta. Noista annetuista äänistä sitten pitää katsoa mikä on hyväksytty ääni  ja mikä ei.

Annetuksi ääneksi ei siis pidä hyväksyä sellaista ääntä
- joka on peräisin henkilöltä jolla ei ole henkkaria
- joka on peräisin henkilöltä joka ei löydy äänoikeutettujen luettelosta
- joka on peräisin laittomalta siirtolaiselta
- jonka on antanut poismuuttanut henkilö, joka ei ole enää kirjoilla osavaltiossa eikä näin ollen äänoikeutettu
- joka on myöhässä saapunut postiääni, eli on saapunut vaalipäivän takarajan jälkeen
- ääni joka on kerätty äänestyspaikan ulkopuolelta (ballot harvesting)
- jonka on antanut kuollut henkilö
- joka on annettu kahteen tai useampaan kertaan saman äänestäjän toimesta
- jonka on antanut keksitty nimi eli henkilö jota ei ole olemassa tyyliin Aku Ankka
- jonka on antanut alaikäinen
- jonka on antanut lemmikki kuten kissa
- joka on tyhjä vaalilippu eli ei mitään merkintää
- joka on vaalilippu jossa on virheellinen merkintä tai mitään ylimääräistä mitä ei saa olla

Varmaan muitakin on mutta nämä kävivät ensin mielessä.
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« Vastaus #10032 : 05.11.2021, 20:58:19 »
Perustuslain merkitys presidentin valintatavassa on ratkaiseva. Presidentin vaihtaminen ei ratkaise perustuslaissa säädetyn presidentinvaalitavan tuottamia sotkuja - sotkujen ratkaisemiseen tarvitaan perustuslain uudistus

Kuvittelisin, että jos presidentinvaalit muutettaisiin suoraksi presidentinvaaliksi niin sitäkään ei ratkaista presidenttiä vaihtamalla vaan siinäkin tarvitaan perustuslain uudistus

Äänten laskemisen seurannan parantamista ei sitäkään ratkaista presidenttiä vaihtamalla vaan siinäkin tarvitaan perustuslain uudistus

Ehdotan harkittavaksi, että Yhdysvaltain presidentti valittaisiin suoralla kansanvaalilla, jossa kaikki äänioikeutetut Yhdysvaltain kansalaiset ovat kokonaisuus. Ehdotan harkittavaksi, että Yhdysvaltain presidentti valittaisiin suoralla kansanvaalilla valitsematta valitsijamiehiä ja ilman mitään alueellisia tasoituskertoimia

Ehdotan harkittavaksi, että Yhdysvaltain liittovaltiotason vaalit järjestää liittovaltio, ja että vaalien äänien laskemisen seuranta on yhdysvaltalaisilla puolueilla ja puolueettomilla kansainvälisillä organisaatioilla. Se on havaittu, että puolueiden tunnetut kannatusalueet laskevat ääniä kotiinpäinvetävällä tavalla, jonka takia äänien laskemisen tarkkailua on tehostettava yhdysvaltalaisilla puolueilla ja puolueettomilla kansainvälisillä organisaatioilla

Se on yksinkertaisempaa kertoa mikä on ainoa sallittu äänestysmuoto kuin alkaa erikseen kieltämään kaikkia kuviteltavissa olevia äänestysmuotoja. Ainoa sallittu äänestysmuoto on, että äänestäjä saapuu henkilökohtaisesti äänestyspaikalle ja todistaa henkilöllisyytensä henkilökortilla, jolloin vaalitoimitsija tarkastelee henkilökorttia ja vertailee henkilökortin kuvaa ja äänestäjän kasvoja toisiinsa, ja sitten äänestäjä kirjoittaa nimensä kirjaan merkityn nimensä kohdalle, jolloin vaalitoimitsija vertailee henkilökortin allekirjoitusnäytettä kirjaan kirjoitettuun allekirjoitukseen, ja jos kuva ja allekirjoitukset vastaavat toisiaan niin vaalitoimitsija antaa äänestyslaput äänestäjälle, jonka jälkeen äänestäjä siirtyy äänestyskoppiin äänestämään. Esimerkiksi henkilökortin saisi hankkia ilmaiseksi FBI paikallisesta toimistosta. Liittovaltion laki säätäisi, että tietyllä väestöpohjalla on oltava tietty määrä äänestyspaikkoja, joihin ihmisillä on kotiosoitteestaan kohtuullinen matka, jota valvoisi FBI
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« Vastaus #10033 : 05.11.2021, 21:29:29 »
Muistaakseni Amerikan perustuslain muutos edellyttää että riittävän moni osavaltio on hyväksynyt ja ratifioinut sen. Pelkkä edustajainhuoneen, senaatin ja presidentin hyväksyntä eivät riitä.

Se että USA:ssa olisi suora presidentinvaali, olisi sama kuin europarlamentin vaaleissa euroedustajat valittaisiin koko EU:n laajuisista ehdokaslistoista. Tällöin tietyt maat saattaisivat jäädä ilman euroedustajaa tai saisivat vähemmän kuin maakohtaisessa kiintiössä. Amerikan osavaltion valitsijamiehet ovat tässä mielessä kuin EU:n jäsenmaasta valitut euroedustajat.

Suoralla vaalilla eli kansanäänillä (popular vote) suoritettava vaali vaikuttaisi siihen missä ehdokkaat kampanjoisivat ja missä eivät.

Noilla videoilla käy ilmi miksi valitsijamieskokous on olemassa. Ei se valitsijamieskokous ole ongelma vaan äänestyskäytäntöihin liittyvät ongelmat. Toisaalta valitsijamiehet voitaisiin valita suhteellisella vaalitavalla kuten Suomessa oli vuoteen 1988 asti. Joku taisi 1700- tai 1800-luvulla ehdottaa Amerikassa tuota suhteellista vaalitapaa. Siinä osavaltio olisi vaalipiiri jossa se suhteellinen vaali toimitettaisiin.

Amerikan vaaleissa henkkariksi voitaisiin hyväksyä tavallinen henkkari, ajokortti, passi, tai erillinen vaaleja varten varattu henkkari.

Joskus tuntuu siltä että Suomessa olisi ollut parempi pitää presidentin valitsijamiehet. Jotenkin tuntuu että Elisabeth Rehn ei olisi saanut kummoista kannatusta 1994 jos äänestäjät olisivat äänestäneet valitsijamiehiä. Rehnskä ei olisi saanut montaa valitsijamiestä. Sama juttu Tarja Halosella 2000 ja 2006 sekä Pekka Haavistolla 2018.
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« Vastaus #10034 : 06.11.2021, 08:20:07 »
Parhaat lait syntyvät sotien jälkeen, kun kaikki yhä tiedostavat millainen korruptoitunut kusipää ääliö ihminen on. Ei nyt. Nyt elämme aikaa jolloin kusipää ääliöt luulevat olevansa ihmiskunnan tiedostavinta ja kehittyneintä kermaa, jolla on kaikki oikeat vastaukset.

Nyt eletään siis sota-aikaa ja kaikki hienot ideat siitä kuinka parannella, todennäköisesti meitä paljon PALJON fiksumpien ihmisten kehittämiä lakeja, kannattaa jättää siihen aikaan kun emme enää halua repiä toisiamme kappaleiksi vain siksi, mitä nämä toiset ajattelevat ja ovat, tai mitä luulemme heidän ajattelevan ja olevan.

Koitetaan myöntää, että aikakautemme sukupolvet ovat pääasiassa paskaa, ja ne jotka nämä yhteiskunnat pystytti, ovat pääasiassa jo poissa.  He jotka viisastuivat edellisten meidän kaltaistemme virheistä ja pitivät länsimaista rauhaa yllä todella pitkään.

Muotoillaan asia vielä toisin:

Ihmisten jotka eivät koskaan aikuistuneet, ei kannattaisi muutella oikeiden aikuisten kehittämiä lakeja.
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« Vastaus #10035 : 16.11.2021, 16:35:40 »
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Vegas man to admit voting twice in November 2020 election

LAS VEGAS (AP) — A Las Vegas business executive whose claim of voter fraud was featured by state Republicans in November 2020 as proof of tainted votes has agreed to plead guilty to a reduced charge of voting more than once in the same election.

Donald “Kirk” Hartle is expected to pay a $2,000 fine and receive the equivalent of one year of probation when he’s sentenced, according to a plea agreement filed Monday ahead of his scheduled plea on Tuesday in state court in Las Vegas.

Hartle, 55, had faced two felony charges in a criminal complaint alleging that he used his dead wife’s ballot. Hartle’s wife, Rosemarie Hartle, died in 2017 at age 52.

Hartle’s attorney, David Chesnoff, on Monday called the plea deal fair and said Hartle accepted responsibility for his actions.

[...]

Hartle is an executive at Ahern Rentals, a company that hosted a re-election campaign event in September 2020 for then-President Donald Trump.
https://apnews.com/article/las-vegas-voting-elections-7ed20d34a2fcf7185db6a144a8f1d665

Samasta keissistä aiempi juttu tarjoaa lisäkontekstia:

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Nevada man charged for voting with dead wife’s ballot in 2020

A Nevada man forged his dead wife’s signature and then mailed in a ballot using her name for the 2020 election, the Nevada Attorney General’s Office announced.

Donald Kirk Hartle, a 55-year-old registered Republican from Las Vegas, was charged with two counts of voter fraud for using the name of another person and voting more than once in the same election, the AG said in a statement on Thursday.

His wife, Rosemarie Hartle of Las Vegas, died in 2017 at the age of 52 from breast cancer, he told KLAS-TV after it was announced state officials were investigating the matter.

[...]
https://nypost.com/2021/10/24/nevada-man-donald-kirk-hartle-charged-for-voting-with-dead-wifes-ballot-in-2020-election/
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« Vastaus #10036 : 29.11.2021, 22:00:41 »
:facepalm:

Laiton presidentti pyrkii demokratian huippukokouksella hakemaan demokratioiden tunnustusta Valkoisen Talon kaappaukselle ääniä väärentämällä. Jos demokratiat tukevat laittoman presidentin järjestämää antidemokratiakokousta niin demokratiat antavat tukensa Valkoisen Talon kaappaukselle äänien väärentämällä. Korostan, että en tue Trumppia siksi, että Trumpin diili Talebanin kanssa on vastuussa siitä, että Yhdysvallat tuki terroristien valtaannousua Afganistanissa

Joe Biden isännöi demokratian huippukokousta

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Presidentti Biden isännöi 9.–10. joulukuuta 2021 virtuaalista huippukokousta hallituksen, kansalaisyhteiskunnan ja yksityisen sektorin johtajille. Huippukokous keskittyy demokratioiden kohtaamiin haasteisiin ja mahdollisuuksiin ja tarjoaa foorumin johtajille, jotka voivat ilmoittaa sekä yksilöllisistä että kollektiivisista sitoumuksista, uudistuksista ja aloitteista demokratian ja ihmisoikeuksien puolustamiseksi kotimaassa ja ulkomailla.

https://www.state.gov/summit-for-democracy/

Alliance of Democracies isännöi demokratiahuippukokousta

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Meillä on ilo isännöidä seuraavaa Kööpenhaminan demokratiahuippukokousta 9.–10. kesäkuuta 2022. Se on viides sen jälkeen, kun puheenjohtajamme Anders Fogh Rasmussen avasi huippukokouksen vuonna 2018 yhdessä silloisen varapresidentin Joe Bidenin kanssa.

https://www.allianceofdemocracies.org/initiatives/the-copenhagen-democracy-summit/the-summit-2022/
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« Vastaus #10037 : 03.12.2021, 06:43:52 »
Muistamme varmasti kaikki Georgian Fulton Countyn ahkerat ääntenlaskijat Rubyn sekä hänen tyttärensä Shayen. Ahkerat ääntenlaskijamme ovat nyt haastaneet Gateway Pundit-sivuston käräjille kunnianloukkauksesta, koska kyseinen sivusto julkaisi valvontakameran tallentaman videon ääntenlaskijoiden ahkeroinnista. Jotenkin voisi kuvitella, että keskeytetyn ääntenlaskennan jatkamisessa ilman valvojia olisi ollut jotain väärää, ja Ruby tyttärineen olisi itse haastettuina.

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Two women who served as election workers in Fulton County, Georgia during the 2020 election today filed a landmark defamation lawsuit against The Gateway Pundit, a website based in St. Louis which the complaint calls “among the leading purveyors of false information in the United States.” The lawsuit, filed in circuit court in St. Louis, charges The Gateway Pundit, along with its founding editor Jim Hoft and contributor Joe Hoft, with knowingly fabricating and disseminating blatantly false stories about the election night conduct of Ruby Freeman and her daughter, Shaye Moss.
...
“Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss should be celebrated as heroes — the kind of heroes who show up early in the morning on election day to make sure our elections run smoothly, so that voters may play their rightful role in selecting our leaders and holding them accountable,” said Von DuBose of DuBose Miller.

https://protectdemocracy.org/update/defamed-georgia-election-workers-sue-the-gateway-pundit-over-ballot-fraud-disinformation/

Kyseinen "Protect Democracy" sivusto vaikuttaa enemmänkin huumorisivustolta, mutta ilmeisesti tuo on ihan vakavasti tehty puolustamaan kommunistien käsitystä demokratiasta.

Edit: Kyseinen Gateway Punditin juttu on ilmeisesti tämä:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/ruby-breaking-crooked-democrat-filmed-pulling-suitcases-ballots-georgia-identified/
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« Vastaus #10038 : 03.12.2021, 13:43:14 »
Lopulta kävi niin kuin kaikki arvasivatkin loputa käyvän tässä telenovelassa: rahastajien rahahanat ehtyivät, jolloin he alkoivat puukottamaan toisiaan selkään ja kiistellä jäljellä olevista rahoista.

Ensin Kyle Rittenhouse kertoi Tucker Carlsonin haastattelussa Lin Woodin tahtoneen kerätä rahaa itselleen ja pitäneen Rittenhousen vankilassa pidempään kuin olisi tarve.

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Kyle Rittenhouse accuses former lawyers of prolonging jail time

Kyle Rittenhouse claimed his former lawyers, Lin Wood and John Pierce, prolonged his jail time and gave him bad advice.

The 18-year-old, who on Friday was acquitted of all charges in the shooting of three men during political unrest last summer in Kenosha, Wisconsin, told Fox News host Tucker Carlson they raised over $1 million by Sept. 5, 2020, and could have filed to get him released on bail by the middle of that month. Instead, Rittenhouse said he spent nearly three months behind bars.

"Lin Wood was raising money on my behalf, and he held me in jail for 87 days, disrespected my wishes," he said in the interview that aired Monday evening. "They said I was safer in jail instead of at home with my family."

He was released from jail on Nov. 20, 2020, after his lawyers paid a $2 million bail with money raised by donors.

"[They were] trying to raise money so they could take it for their own benefit, not trying to set me free," he said. "They wanted to keep me in jail until Nov. 20."

[...]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/kyle-rittenhouse-accuses-former-lawyers-of-prolonging-jail-time

Wood ei tästä innostunut, vaan yritti saada takaisin uskottavuuttaan hyökkäämällä ensin Sidney Powellin, sekä Patrick Byrnen kimppuun, kun nämä eivät puolustaneet Woodia tarpeellisissa määrin. Ensimmäisellä kerrottiin olevan rahavaikeuksia ja -epäselvyyksiä, ja jälkimmäinen audion mukaan tahtoi maata Powellin kanssa. Powell muistetaan lässähtäneistä vaalivilppitodiste-Krakeneistaan talvella, Byrne oli Arizonan sirkus-auditin päärahoittajia. Sic gloria transit mundi, eilisen liittolaiset ovat huomisen vihollisia.

Tämä ei kuitenkaan vielä riittänyt, vaan seuraavaksi Wood hyökkäsi entistä liittolaistaan Michael Flynniä vastaan, sillä hänkään ei tukenut Woodia tarpeellisissa määrin. Wood paljasti Flynnin sanoneen Q:n olevan CIA:n juoni ja disinformaatiota ja postasi tuekseen jälleen audiopätkän keskustelusta Flynnin kanssa omalle Telegram-kanavalleen ja kertoi tämän olevan susi lampaiden vaatteissa sekä elinikäinen demokraatti. Viime päivinä on esitetty syytöksiä ("kysymyksiä") kytköksistä George Sorosiin ja okkultisista rukouksista. Mike Lindellkin on tainnut saada osansa.

Aivan viimeksi Lin Wood on käynyt Tucker Carlsonia vastaan, sanoi tällä olevan tiiviitä yhteyksiä Hunter Bideniin.

Mitä vielä paljastuukaan  :o Parasta viihdettä, suosittelen.
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« Vastaus #10039 : 14.12.2021, 00:46:41 »
Teknisesti voidaan sanoa näin, että koneisto mahdollisesti väärensi äänet ja kaappasi vallan, jonka jälkeeen koneisto ei tietenkään tutki itseään mahdollisesta laajamittaisesta ääniä väärentämällä vallankaappauksesta. Sehän on eri puolilta maailmaa tuttua, että turvatakseen oman valta-asemansa jatkuvuuden vallitseva voimakas valtakoneisto väärentää vaalien äänien laskennassa kansalaisten antamat äänet

Ilmeisen ääniä väärentämällä vallankaappauksen taustalla ovat mahdollisesti pitkäaikaiset vuosikymmeniä politiikassa vaikuttaneet konkarit sekä Demokraateissa, että Republikaaneissa. Näiden henkilöiden voimakas asema Yhdysvaltain hallinnossa selittäisi sen, että koneisto on ilmeisen kyvytön tutkimaan ja rankaisemaan mahdollisesta ääniä väärentämällä tehdystä vallankaappauksesta

Mielestäni näissä epäselvissä ja kiistanalaisissa olosuhteissa mitkä Yhdysvaltain politiikassa nyt vallitsee niin Joe Bideniä ei pidä tituleerata Yhdysvaltain presidentiksi siksi, että Joe Bidenin asema on epäselvä siksi, että on monta perusteltua syytä epäillä, että Yhdysvaltain presidentinvaalien äänien laskennassa ilmeni laajamittaista äänien väärentämistä

Yhdysvaltain nykyinen perustuslaki on pohjimmiltaan taustalla näissä Yhdysvaltain vaaleihin liittyvissä epäselvyyksissä, ja siksi Yhdysvaltain täytyisi harkita ryhtyä harkitsemaan kirjoittaa uusi perustuslaki, joka ennen kaikkea tuottaisi selkeät ja todennettavat vaalitulokset

En tue Trumppia siksi, että Trump teki talebanin kanssa diilin sen hallinnon kaatamisesta, jonka Yhdysvallat alunperin nosti valtaan, ja talebanin palauttamisesta valtaan, jonka Yhdysvallat alunperin poisti vallasta, ja Yhdysvaltain vetäytymisestä, josta seurasi myös NATO:n vetäytyminen Afganistanista siksi, että Yhdysvallat johtaa NATO:a

Demokratioiden on vaadittava demokratian pelisäännöistä kiinni pitämistä. Se on niin, että äänien väärentämiseen on vastattava aggressiivisesti, ja ääniä väärentämällä vallankaappaajat on poistettava vallasta kaikin keinoin siksi, että jos näin ei tehdä niin meillä ei ole demokratiaa. Pelkureilla ei ole demokratiaa

Mutta odota ja katso on taktiikka silloin, kun on nähtävissä, että kohteen asema heikentyy monista eri syistä. Kun aika on meidän puolella niin me voimme odottaa, että aika tekee tehtävänsä
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« Vastaus #10040 : 14.12.2021, 06:31:58 »
Presidenttinä ollessaan Barack Obama twiittasi VP Joe Bidenin sanoneen että USA vetäytyy Afganistanista vuonna 2014. USA:lla ei ollut käytännön syytä olla Afganistanissa sen jälkeen kun Osama Bin Laden murhattiin 2011.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMKrvFubpJY

Afganistanista oli joka tapauksessa pakko lähteä, ainakin joskus. USA oli siellä vuodesta 2001. Trump sopi Talebanin kanssa että USA vetäytyy Afganistanista, mutta toimeenpano jäi Bidenin vastuulle koska hän on virassa. Ongelma ei ollut vetäytymispäätöksessä vaan toteuttamistavassa. Ensin olisi pitänyt kotiuttaa siviilit, sitten kalusto, ja viimeisenä sotilaat. Nyt se toteuttaminen meni mönkään.

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« Vastaus #10041 : 17.12.2021, 19:08:11 »
Merkittävin todiste siitä, että Yhdysvaltain presidentinvaalien 2020 äänien laskemisessa on jotakin hämärää on se, että koneisto häiritsee ja estelee Yhdysvaltain presidentinvaalien äänien laskemisen tarkastamista ja laittomien äänien poistamista

Äänien väärentäjät tietänevät kaikista tietäjistä parhaiten, että Yhdysvaltain presidenttiä näyttelevä henkilö ja hänen hallintonsa on nostettu Valkoiseen Taloon ääniä väärentämällä

Se on niin, että jos henkilö on nostettu Valkoiseen Taloon ääniä väärentämällä niin äänien väärentäjät romuttivat Yhdysvaltain presidentti-instituution arvovallan

Että onkohan se valtapeliin liittyvää juonittelua valituttaa henkilö Valkoiseen Taloon ääniä väärentämällä siksi, että sehän tarkoittaa, että Valkoiseen Taloon nostetulla henkilöllä ja hänen hallinnollaan ei ole todellista legitimiteettiä

Että jos Yhdysvaltain presidenttiä ja hänen hallintoaan näyttelevillä ei ole todellista legitimiteettiä niin sehän tarkoittaa, että Capitol Hillin asema korostuu

Yhdysvaltain presidentti johtaa maailman voimakkainta supervaltaa

Yhdysvaltain presidentti-instituution arvovalta on tärkeä asia, ja siksi on erityisen tarkkaa, että Yhdysvaltain presidentin arvovallalla on tukenaan todellinen legitimiteetti, joka on tarkistettu äänien laskeminen

Sillä, että Yhdysvaltain presidentti on valittu laillisten äänien laskemisella on erityisen suuri merkitys siksi, että Yhdysvallat on maailmaa johtava supervalta

Väärin mahdollinen paikka missä äänien väärentämistä voisi harjoittaa on Yhdysvaltain presidentin valitseminen siksi, että Yhdysvaltain presidentin asema on erityisen merkittävä tässä maailmanjärjestyksessä
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« Vastaus #10042 : 17.12.2021, 20:07:07 »
Merkittävin todiste siitä, että Yhdysvaltain presidentinvaalien 2020 äänien laskemisessa on jotakin hämärää on se, että koneisto häiritsee ja estelee Yhdysvaltain presidentinvaalien äänien laskemisen tarkastamista ja laittomien äänien poistamista
......
Siihen suuntaan vihjaa myös julistus rehellisimmistä vaaleista ikinä. Hyvin outoa on sekin että virkaan nostettiin pahasti dementoitunut sekoileva vanhus. Siinä esivaalissakin voisi olla tutkimisen aihetta. Demokraatit on kyllä ajaneet maailman arvostetuimman poliittisen viran niin alas että sitä on vaikea alittaa. Tokihan se alkoi jo Trumpin mollaamisella median tukemana.
Vaikka tarkoitusperät olisivat maailman parhaat, niin monien, täysin erilaisten kulttuuritaustojen omaavien ihmisten kotouttaminen onnistuneesti ei ole mahdollista

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« Vastaus #10043 : 21.12.2021, 15:53:56 »
Merkittävin todiste siitä, että Yhdysvaltain presidentinvaalien 2020 äänien laskemisessa on jotakin hämärää on se, että koneisto häiritsee ja estelee Yhdysvaltain presidentinvaalien äänien laskemisen tarkastamista ja laittomien äänien poistamista

Kaikkein omituisinta on minun mielestäni se, että Yhdysvaltain presidentinvaaleissa on mahdollista äänestää ilman kuvallista henkilöllisyystodistusta, ja palautuskuorella varustettuja ennakkoäänestyslappuja voi tilata postitse kotiin näyttämättä minkäänlaista henkilöllisyystodistusta missään vaiheessa.
En halua Euroopan yhteiskuntien muuttuvan sellaisiksi kuin Afrikan ja Lähi-idän yhteiskunnat. En usko afrikkalaisten ja lähi-itämaalaisten käyttäytyvän Euroopassa eri tavalla kuin Afrikassa ja Lähi-idässä. Tästä syystä vastustan Afrikan ja Lähi-idän väestöjen siirtymistä Eurooppaan.

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« Vastaus #10044 : 21.12.2021, 16:45:09 »

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Lainaus
Meet Ray Epps: The Fed-Protected Provocateur Who Appears To Have Led The Very First 1/6 Attack On The U.S. Capitol
October 25, 2021
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Jatkoa tarinalle. Nämä jututhan ei kongressin tutkintakomiteaa tai mätämediaa oikein kiinnosta.

https://www.revolver.news/2021/12/damning-new-details-massive-web-unindicted-operators-january-6/

Lainaus
Meet Ray Epps, Part 2: Damning New Details Emerge Exposing Massive Web Of Unindicted Operators At The Heart Of January 6

Six weeks ago, Revolver News published a blockbuster investigative report on Ray Epps — a man who, more than any other individual, appears to be the key unlocking the question of active federal involvement in the so-called “Capitol Siege” of January 6th.

Out of all of the thousands of January 6’s protesters, and the thousands of hours of publicly available footage from that fateful day, Ray Epps has turned out to be perhaps the only person nailed dead to rights confessing on camera to plotting a pre-planned attack on the Capitol. On both January 5 and January 6, Epps announced multiple times, at multiple locations, his upcoming plot to breach the US Capitol. He then spent hours attempting to recruit hundreds of others to join him. On top of it all, Epps was seen leading key people and managing key aspects of the initial breach of the Capitol grounds himself.

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It would be one thing if Epps’s repeated calls on January 5 to “go into the Capitol” had simply amounted to bluster. But Epps followed through on his stated mission to shepherd others inside. In clips 4-6 of the above compilation, we see Epps actively orchestrate elements of the very first breach of the Capitol barricades at 12:50 p.m, while Trump still had 20 minutes left in his rally speech.

It is noteworthy that this Ray Epps breach occurs just one minute after Capitol Police began responding to reports of two “pipe bombs” located at DNC and GOP headquarters, respectively. Rather conveniently, the already-handicapped Capitol Police thus had still-fewer resources with which to respond to the barricade breach in question.

While the “pipe bombs” turned out to be a dud, the Ray Epps breach proved fateful. Today, the official stories told by the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, and the US Justice Department all depict the apparent Ray Epps-orchestrated 12:50 p.m. initial breach of metal barricades as the “Big Bang” event of January 6.

In large part, this description is hardly an exaggeration. Indeed, it was the 12:50 p.m. breach of the Capitol grounds, in conjunction with a handful of suspicious individuals ripping down fencing and signage, that set in motion the conditions allowing for 1/6 to turn from a rally into a riot.

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Agents of the FBI Field Office in Phoenix (where Epps lives) have gone so far as to explicitly deny knowledge that Ray Epps even exists. Instead of pursuing Epps, FBI agents have instead pursued journalists who had the temerity to ask Epps in person if he was a government operative. “I understand that, but I can’t say anything,” is all Epps would tell them.

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The sham Congressional January 6 Commission seems to be going along with the charade of Ray Epps denialism. For all of its recent gesticulations about Mark Meadows’s benign text messages, the Commission has yet to express even a basic interest in Ray Epps or his communications leading up to and on January 6.

But the specter of Ray Epps, and the ominous questions his immunity raises, loom too large to be memory-holed by poorly coordinated efforts of government denial. In light of the above, it is both amusing and symbolically appropriate that despite the FBI’s attempt to purge Epps’s face from its “Wanted” database (and public denials of his existence from authorized agents), the FBI DC Field Office still features Ray Epps as a “Wanted” man in its current pinned Twitter image (look closely and you’ll find it).

If Epps turns out to have been some kind of government operative, which at present is the only clean and simple explanation for his immunity, it is game over for the official “MAGA insurrection” narrative of 1/6. Epps was the day’s loudest riot recruiter, and its apparent leader of the very first breach of Capitol grounds. If Ray Epps is a Fed, the “Insurrection” becomes the “Fedsurrection” in one fell swoop.

These are the stakes at play in unraveling the Ray Epps enigma.

But it is imperative to note that if Epps was just a cog in a much larger federal operation, he would not have been deployed alone. (…)

So if Ray Epps was instructed by the government to play his part in various recruiting, breaching and crowd control efforts that day, we would expect many other informants to be set up around him.

To test this hypothesis, Revolver spent the past six weeks comprehensively mapping Ray Epps’s network of interactions on January 6, and profiling the key people around him who complemented his efforts. (...)

But first, it important to note that Feds at the mere informant level are seldom told by their handlers of the presence of other government informants around them. From each individual informant’s perspective, the agitators around them would look as lawless to them as they did to the crowd.

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So it is not necessary for all or any of the individuals covered in this report to know each other or to have affirmatively “worked together” to have formed a “team” through collective effort. A simple text message from a federal handler to “Be at the Peace Monument at 12:45 p.m. and flush out the crazies” would be all that’s needed for a large ring of provocateurs to simultaneously be in the same place, at the same time, contributing to the same breach.

So now, without further ado, we will tell the true, documented story of 1/6 that the Regime doesn’t want you to hear, involving key unindicted figures the Regime would prefer that you never heard of.

If there were such a thing as an unbiased January 6 Commission that sought to piece together the accurate timeline and narrative of events on 1/6, the following study would be the sort of thing it would publish.

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The Booby Trap that Turned a Rally into a Riot

Before we get acquainted with the key unindicted players operating around Ray Epps, let’s quickly touch upon the basic facts of the initial breach of the Capitol grounds.

The “Big Bang” moment that kicked off the riot was when a small “breach team” of just a few dozen people violently knocked over the first set of metal barricades between 12:50-12:53 p.m. They forced back the police, and therefore opened a clean walkway entrance to the crowd behind them.

We will hereafter refer to this location of barriers as the “Ray Epps breach site,” and the collection of individuals responsible for this critical initial breach as the “Ray Epps breach team.” Clips from that breach scene, with Ray Epps standing front and center giving out directions, are republished below for convenience.

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This same breach team then proceeded to haul the metal police barricades off to the side, tear down “Restricted Area” signage, and systematically remove protective fencing from the Capitol lawn. Ordinarily, with no barriers in place, this entire area is open to the public.

To get a geographical sense of the Ray Epps crime scene, the below image shows where the Capitol’s rear barricades and fencing were first attacked. This area is also known as the Peace Monument.

The tactical importance of this breached location is that it was the very first walkway entrance into the Capitol grounds that every Trump supporter would arrive at first as they walked from the Trump rally to the Capitol.

The Ray Epps Breach Team had the amazing foresight to pry open the one walkway entrance that no one could avoid. (LIITEKUVA)

As you can see from the above, both the Pennsylvania Ave and the Constitution Ave exits from the Trump speech intersect at the exact Peace Monument barricade targeted in advance by the Ray Epps Breach Team. If any of the eight other walkway entrances into the Capitol grounds had been toppled instead, tens of thousands of marchers would have been met by police and metal barricades, instead of an open gate.

The Ray Epps breach team thus set up a booby trap by pushing back the police, then hauling away the “restricted area” signage, the chain fencing, and the metal barricades—all while tens of thousands were still at the Trump rally. Without police present or “do not enter” signs prominently visible, people leaving Trump’s speech and arriving at the Capitol entrance would have no idea it was illegal to walk through the gate, or onto the lawn, or up to the Capitol steps. After all, this entire area is ordinarily open to the public.

Instead, they heard friendly music and saw the main walkway to the Capitol grounds wide open. These unwitting Trump supporters had no idea they had just crossed an invisible tripwire that would later subject them to federal prosecution for trespassing.

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Moreover, the giant main component of Trump protesters would not arrive at this Capitol entrance until 50 minutes after the Ray Epps Breach Team opened up the walkway—Trump had 20 minutes left in his speech, and it took 30 minutes to walk to the Peace Monument. This giant component arrived at the entrance and saw hundreds of people already inside the Capitol grounds. They would no longer stage their protest back behind the fencing, because the Breach Team booby-trappers had already hauled most of it away before they got there. The giant component therefore walked all the way up to the Capitol building itself.

As we described in more detail in our October 10 report, the Ray Epps Breach Team thus set up what may amount to the largest legal booby-trap in American history.

Indeed, when the DOJ indicted Oath Keeper Jeremy Brown in September for “trespassing on restricted grounds” (18 US Code § 1752), the Justice Department explained that any January 6 protester who stepped foot within the red line below had committed a federal crime and could be kept in prison without bail until a criminal trial 12+ months away.

But how did this happen? Who exactly pulled it off? And how does it all trace back to Ray Epps?

Setting Up The Booby Trap

In our October 10 Revolver report, we showed January 6 footage of one dark-complected man coolly and methodically cutting down and then rolling up “restricted area” fencing around the Capitol lawn. He had no Trump gear on, and made sure to wear dark sunglasses on a cloudy day. He was not angry. He was dispassionate, calm, and professional, like he was just there to do a job.

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This man remains unindicted. In fact, the FBI does not even appear to even be looking for him. He is wholly absent from the FBI Capitol “Most Wanted List.” There is no reward for information leading to his arrest.

For perspective, the FBI’s “Most Wanted List” features plenty of MAGA grandmas and teens who committed no property crimes or physical damage at all. (…)

Despite the FBI’s lack of interest in this brazen booby-trapper seen rolling up restricted area fencing, online researchers have stayed on the case. They have dubbed this individual “#FenceCutterBulwark”, with “Bulwark” being the brand name of his fire-retardant jacket, designed for professional use in the oil and gas industry. You’ll see more fire-retardant jackets among the unindicted below.

FenceCutterBulwark was waiting right next to the Ray Epps Breach Site at 12:31 p.m. That’s a full 20 minutes before the breach kicked off. There, he was doing nothing except looking out past the fencing he would later take down.

Moreover, 12:31 p.m. is 17 minutes before the large group of 220+ marching Proud Boys arrived at the Peace Monument from their lunch break. Here’s why that matters:

The official January 6 story, as parroted by the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal and HBO, is that the Proud Boys’ arrival at the Peace Monument at 12:48 p.m. is what sparked a sudden breach. But the fact that FenceCutterBulwark and other key operators (until now ignored by mainstream media) were already waiting in place while the Proud Boys’ were still a mile away eating lunch suggests a more sinister possibility: foreknowledge of an imminent breach at this exact location.

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But it’s not just Ray Epps and FenceCutterBulwark who appear to have been waiting for the Proud Boys.

Perched right across from FenceCutterBulwark at 12:31 p.m. is the man widely regarded by online researchers as the most infamous of all unindicted January 6 riot leaders—a man unmentioned in the mainstream press but elevated to legendary status online as “#NWScaffoldCommander.”

Don’t let looks deceive you: This extremely peculiar middle-aged man with glasses, a nerdy mask and a blue ballcap has been assigned more notoriety by deep researchers than arguably any other person of the thousands they have indexed. NWScaffoldCommander’s frenetic whirlwind of activities, and apparent role as “the ringleader” of the breach, have made him the subject of Russiagate-level rumor and speculation that he was privy to a January 6 “master plan.”

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But once the crowd had continuously “moved forward” for over an hour, and the very first handful of rioters entered the building, ScaffoldCommander suddenly threw the switch: “Okay we’re in! We’re in! Come on! We gotta fill up the Capitol! Come on! Come now! We need help We gotta fill up the Capitol! They got in.”

This clip below is checkmate. It should make ScaffoldCommander one of the top criminal suspects on the entire FBI Capitol Most Wanted List (spoiler alert: he isn’t even on the list, and no charges have been filed, and the FBI to date has still never acknowledged his existence).

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The statement “that’s all they need to know right now“ seems to all but confirm that ScaffoldCommander had a two-stage breach plan, which he stuck to with monomaniacal focus. For the first 70 minutes, the only objective was to move the pawns “forward” up the board, until as much pressure as possible had been placed on the building itself. Then, once a single breacher had made it inside, he immediately hit the Bullhorn Bait-And-Switch: “Move forward” gave way to his real imperative—“Fill up the Capitol.”

And yet the whole time, he never gave a reason. He was simply a man on a mission.

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But what makes the ScaffoldCommander-Ray Epps affair complete is that they appeared to work in tandem from start to finish the entire day on 1/6. Both set up positions at the initial 12:50 p.m. “Big Bang” breach site, and they did so before the Proud Boys arrived. The official story, you will recall, says that the Proud Boys group caused the riot. Again, we must point out how bizarre it is that so many individuals (so far Epps, ScaffoldCommander, and FenceCutterBulwark) who turn out to be key players in the Capitol breach show up in the same area so early on in the day.

(…)

ScaffoldCommander and FenceCutterBulwark were actually not the first to start removing barricades and fencing. In fact, they did not “activate” until Ray Epps’s Breach Team set off the initial attack at the Epps breach site at 12:50 p.m.

About 30 feet south of Ray Epps, right around the time the breach occurred at 12:50 p.m., a smaller squad of men were beginning the process of fence and barricade removal, out of sight of the walkway police.

Below is a video of one of the very first booby-trappers, dubbed “#BlackSkiMask.” Cell phone metadata confirms a timestamp of 12:53 p.m., meaning BlackSkiMask’s efforts to open up the lawn overlapped with the precise minute that Epps took on the police.

You’ll note a familiar pattern: the crowd is begging BlackSkiMask to stop breaking the law, just like they rejected Ray Epps the night before.

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As the above video ends, BlackSkiMask sees Ray Epps and his team have successfully breached the police line. He then runs over to the walkway Epps has just cleared. From there, BlackSkiMask begins methodically dumping the police barricades over the side of the walkway wall. This clean removal process will create the impression to the 15,000 people already walking from the Trump speech that no police barricades were ever there in the first place.

BlackSkiMask is the individual you will see at 0:24 say: “We’re taking that s**t today.”

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In Part 1, we described how the official story says an individual named Ryan Samsel started the riot by pushing the barricades first.

But in the above video, you can see that BlackSkiMask quickly ends up ahead of Ryan Samsel in rushing up to the second police barricades (and both are behind Ray Epps). BlackSkiMask seemed, much more than Samsel, to know what the game plan was for the next phase of the breach.

BlackSkiMask has still not been arrested. He remains on the FBI Capitol Most Wanted List, as Suspect #148.

But there’s just one problem with this situation: the FBI knows exactly who BlackSkiMask is already. And for some reason, they’re still not prosecuting him.

The feds don’t just have an ID on BlackSkiMask, they have an entire police report—and a shocking one at that. Just one day before January 6, BlackSkiMask was yanked out of a bus by dozens of police officers who suspected his vehicle was packed with guns and bombs. His bus was stopped just in front of the US Justice Department.

Yes, read that again. You’re probably wondering why you’ve never heard of this January 5 guns-and-explosives bus anywhere in regime media. (…)

(…)

Now ask yourself: had you ever heard about this gun-filled, possibly bomb-filled “Hippies for Trump” bus the feds stopped in front of the Justice Department before Revolver just told you about it?

You probably didn’t, because the event went completely unreported by DC media the day before January 6, and in the aftermath that followed. (…)

How could there be a total media blackout on January 5 about a guns-and-explosives cache discovery in a bus parked in front of the US Justice Department, just one day before the major Trump rally and all-important Senate certification vote?

DC is a 93% Democrat-voting bastion. Authorities would normally be stampeding toward the closest press podium to give frothing DC journalists all the salacious details of a catch like this. The responding officers would all be given promotions and medals. We are talking about busting a bus-full of “Trump supporters” with guns and explosives in broad daylight, parked in front of the Justice Department. Why was there total radio silence? Who ordered the story squashed? Did top brass in DC or federal law enforcement intervene to keep the story quiet—that way the next day’s events on January 6 would more convincingly look like they took DC police completely be surprise?

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Based on the badge on his tactical gear (see also his extraordinary comms equipment), it appears BlackSkiMask is from Texas. Like Ray Epps traveling 2,300 miles from Arizona, we are talking about “Trump supporters” who flew thousands of miles for a Trump rally but skipped the actual rally to commit a pointless barricade break-in instead.

But even BlackSkiMask was not the first person to trespass onto the restricted Capitol lawn while the Ray Epps Breach Team was leading the frontal assault. That “first on the field” distinction, some Capitol researchers believe, belongs to yet another unindicted man, also missing from the FBI’s “Wanted” list. We will now close out our roster of key unindicted breach figures with one final profile of this man, dubbed “#BeCivilGuy.”

(…)

But there’s a big problem with that theory: BeCivilGuy was the first guy who broke upfield toward the second police line, way past the “Restricted Area” fencing — and he did so before Ray Epps & Co. breached the first police line at 12:50 p.m., and before any fencing came down from the efforts of BlackSkiMask and his team.

(…)

At this moment in time below, immediately before the breach, BeCivilGuy is the deepest “trespasser” of any of the tens of thousands of Trump supporters in DC.

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Second, and much more importantly, BeCivilGuy was not trying to stop people going in the Capitol. This sequence happened at 2:56 p.m. The Capitol had been already breached more than 40 minutes earlier, first at 2:12 p.m. The front main entrance to the Capitol was already wide open, with hundreds simply walking in the front door and staying within the velvet ropes, by 2:25 p.m.

And we know BeCivilGuy knows this, because at 0:39, BeCivilGuy points to the other side of the Capitol and reassures the window-breaker’s associate that “We’re getting in. We’re getting in.” BeCivilGuy either wanted, or was fine with, Trump supporters going inside the Capitol. He just wanted people to do so peacefully.

This is effectively a carbon copy of the strange modus operandi of Ray Epps.

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Ray Epps told his local Arizona newspaper just five days after January 6 that going into the Capitol “peacefully” meant “we would go in the doors like everyone else”—and not break windows doing so. BeCivilGuy seems to be following the exact same playbook, or perhaps instructions, as Ray Epps.

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Ray Epps Saw It All Coming

Any simple study of Revolver’s Ray Epps video library confirms, beyond all reasonable doubt, that Ray Epps had advance knowledge of a Capitol perimeter breach that would occur where and when it did, on January 6.

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This means Epps came to the Trump speech early in the morning with the sole intention of recruiting a mob to follow on the heels of the Capitol breach team he would personally oversee while Trump was speaking—the very breach team we have covered in this report whose operators would remove the fencing, signage and barricades before the masses would arrive at the Capitol.

Let’s put this all in context:

Ray Epps flew 2,300 miles from Phoenix, Arizona to Washington, DC for a Trump rally, supposedly as a Trump supporter.

Epps arrived at the rally entrance more than two hours early, camped out to constantly shout recruiting instructions about coming to the Capitol after the speech, but then skipped out on the speech itself, because he was too busy personally orchestrating the Big Bang Breach Team that kicked off the riot and tore down the fencing, barricades and signage, which made rallygoers totally unaware of the legal booby trap they had walked into.

So if Ray Epps was acting on instructions from a government handler from any federal agency (FBI, ATF, Pentagon, DHS, DEA, anything), we now are talking about perhaps the single most egregious caught-on-camera intelligence operation in our lifetimes.

Synthesis: We Now Know How They Did It

It increasingly appears that we now know how rogue elements of federal agencies pulled off the January 6 Fedsurrection. If the Ray Epps Breach Team hypothesis is correct, a group of government-sponsored provocateurs were all instructed separately by handlers to arrive at the Peace Monument before 12:45 p.m., where they front-ran the arrival of the Proud Boys, who would serve as the scapegoat for the breach. Then, post-breach, key operators such as Epps and ScaffoldCommander directed the crowd to “move forward,” while others removed barricades, fencing and signage.

There is simply no way the FBI did not know the Proud Boys march would end up at the Peace Monument just after 12:45 p.m. That march was led by Proud Boy leader Joe Biggs. Biggs is an FBI informant who says he “spoke often” with his bureau contacts. Biggs’s Proud Boy boss Enrique Tarrio was also an FBI informant. And the FBI was reading their cell phone group chat messages ahead of time.

Epps, for his part, may not have understood any of the bigger picture. If the former Oath Keeper state chapter president is indeed a longtime government informant, as it fully appears, he may be very much used to getting text messages from an agency contact telling him “Hey, go to this right-wing event and test the crowd for troublemakers. We’re looking to flush out the crazies.” Certainly, Epps made it sound like he was no novice to crowd control at large-scale protest events. His Facebook profile picture was a previous mass march on Washington, and he was fond of telling those around him he’s “been doing this a long time.”

(…)

Moreover, we know Ray Epps feels morally conflicted about what happened. He may still consider himself a patriot, and realized only later he was used like a pawn. How else can one synthesize Epps’s cryptic and tortured quasi-confession to the AZ Central just five days after January 6, where he was torn between the statements “I think the truth needs to get out” and “they were supposed to go in the doors like everyone else.”

What “truth” did Ray Epps mean, when he said “the truth needs to get out”?  Why did Epps believe the crowd “was supposed to go in” the Capitol a certain way—i.e., through the front Columbus entrance doors, rather than breaking and entering the rear Capitol windows? Who was Ray Epps working for, and who told him how things were “supposed” to go?

(…)

Conclusion: The Time Is Now For Full-Court Legal and Legislative Action

You know the fix is in because we do not have Ray Epps’s phone records from January 6.

A full and complete record of every text message, every phone call, and every wire conversation Ray Epps made on January 5-6 would tell us exactly who else was privy to the Capitol breach plan. It would also very likely tell us which federal agencies were giving the orders, and which agents in particular were handling the many disparate members of the breach team.

The sham January 6 House Select Committee has now subpoenaed over 100 civilian cell phone records. But you know the fix is in because they have stayed away from subpoenaing the cell phone records of Ray Epps. And Ray Epps is just chilling at home these days, under the apparent protection of the Phoenix FBI.

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"Tehohoito­paikkojen määrä nostetaan tuhanteen" -Krista Kiuru 19.3.2020

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« Vastaus #10045 : 21.12.2021, 20:13:14 »
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Sisällis­sotien tutkija: USA ei ole enää demokratia, ja se on ”lähempänä sisällis­sotaa kuin kukaan meistä haluaisi uskoa”

Jopa CIA:n käyttämillä mittareilla Yhdysvallat on taantunut vain osittain demokraattiseksi maaksi. Sisällissotien tutkija Barbara Walter varoittaa tuoreessa kirjassa, että Yhdysvalloista on tullut lähes korkean konfliktiriskin maa.

Jukka Huusko

VALKOISTA ylivaltaa kannattava äärioikeistolainen kaahaa autolla mielenosoittajien kulkueeseen Yhdysvaltain Charlottesvillessä. Aseellinen ääriryhmä suunnittelee Michiganin kuvernöörin sieppaamista. Aseistautunut joukko presidentti Donald Trumpin kannattajia ja salaliittoteoreetikkoja valtaa Yhdysvaltain kongressitalon ja uhkaa keskeyttää demokraattisen vallanvaihdon.

Ovatko nämä yksittäistapauksia vai merkki syvällisemmästä käänteestä Yhdysvaltain demokratiassa?

TUSKIN ainakaan yksittäistapauksia, varoittaa sisällissotia ja niiden puhkeamista vuosikymmeniä tutkinut yhdysvaltalainen professori Barbara Walter.

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WALTERIN mukaan Yhdysvaltain muutoksessa huolestuttavaa on se nopeus, jonka kuluessa demokratian taantuminen on tapahtunut. Käytännössä rappeutuminen on tapahtunut viidessä vuodessa. Mahalasku voidaan palauttaa pitkälti Trumpin presidenttikauteen.

[...]

Tuore yhdysvaltalainen kyselytutkimus puolestaan paljasti, että jopa 17 prosenttia Trumpia tukevista republikaaneista olisi valmis käyttämään väkivaltaa saadakseen palautettua Trumpin presidentiksi.
Helsingin Sanomat 21.12.2021

Miksi aina pitää valehdella? Ei kysytty, onko valmis käyttämään väkivaltaa, vaan voiko väkivaltaa pitää koskaan oikeutettuna ("behavior ever justified"). Hyvin eri asia, kuten sisällissotaa maalaava toimittaja Huusko varmasti tietää.

Demokraattien ja republikaanien hyväksyntä poliittiselle väkivallalle oli kyselyssä samalla tasolla, mutta republikaaneille suunnattiin pari erityisskenaariota kuten tuo Trumpin presidenttiyden palauttaminen, joissa prosentit nousivat korkeammalle. Hyväksyntä lain rikkomiselle poliittisista syistä oli muuten selvästi suurempaa demokraateilla, jopa 30 prosenttia.
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« Vastaus #10047 : 29.12.2021, 11:35:43 »
USA:n demokraateistakin 41 prosenttia uskoo 2020 vaalivilppiin
Juha-Pekka Tikka | 28.12.2021

Edes voittaneen presidentin oman puolueen kannattajat eivät katso vaalien olleen rehelliset.

Rasmussen Reportsin mielipidemittauksen mukaan Yhdysvalloissa 79 prosenttia republikaaneista, 58 prosenttia sitoutumattomista ja 41 prosenttia demokraateista pitää ainakin jonkin verran todennäköisenä, että marraskuun 2020 presidentinvaalin tuloksissa tehtiin vilppiä.

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81 million "votes," most in history and...

41% of your own party thinks you cheated

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Voters Against 'Zuckerbucks' Influencing Elections

 December 23, 2021

An overwhelming majority of American voters believe Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg’s multimillion-dollar effort to influence the 2020 presidential election was a bad thing for democracy, and most still think cheating influenced the election outcome.

A new national telephone and online survey by Rasmussen Reports finds that 70% of Likely U.S. voters believe it was a bad thing for American democracy for Zuckerberg to spend hundreds of millions of dollars to influence the outcome of the 2020 presidential election. Only eight percent (8%) think Zuckerberg’s election spending was good for democracy, while 17% say it didn’t make much difference.
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« Vastaus #10048 : 02.01.2022, 12:25:01 »
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Sisällis­sotien tutkija: USA ei ole enää demokratia, ja se on ”lähempänä sisällis­sotaa kuin kukaan meistä haluaisi uskoa”

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Tuore yhdysvaltalainen kyselytutkimus puolestaan paljasti, että jopa 17 prosenttia Trumpia tukevista republikaaneista olisi valmis käyttämään väkivaltaa saadakseen palautettua Trumpin presidentiksi.
Helsingin Sanomat 21.12.2021

Miksi aina pitää valehdella? Ei kysytty, onko valmis käyttämään väkivaltaa, vaan voiko väkivaltaa pitää koskaan oikeutettuna ("behavior ever justified"). Hyvin eri asia, kuten sisällissotaa maalaava toimittaja Huusko varmasti tietää.

Demokraattien ja republikaanien hyväksyntä poliittiselle väkivallalle oli kyselyssä samalla tasolla, mutta republikaaneille suunnattiin pari erityisskenaariota kuten tuo Trumpin presidenttiyden palauttaminen, joissa prosentit nousivat korkeammalle. Hyväksyntä lain rikkomiselle poliittisista syistä oli muuten selvästi suurempaa demokraateilla, jopa 30 prosenttia.

Uusi kysely: Helsingin Sanomat: Kolmasosa yhdys­valtalaisista pitää väki­valtaa hallintoa kohtaan jossain tapauksissa oikeutettuna 2.1.2021

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YKSI kolmesta amerikkalaisesta pitää väkivaltaa hallintoa kohtaan joskus oikeutettuna.

Osuus on suurempi kuin kertaakaan yli kahteenkymmeneen vuoteen, selvisi uusimmassa The Washington Postin ja Marylandin yliopiston kyselyssä. Vuonna 2015 alle neljäsosa ja vuonna 2010 vain 16 prosenttia amerikkalaisista vastasi myöntävästi kysymykseen siitä, voiko väkivalta hallintoa vastaan olla oikeutettua.

Muutos vuoteen 2015 ei ole tällaisen kysymyksen kohdalla erityisen suuri ("violence never justified", 69%=>62%), kun otetaan huomioon muuttunut kyselytapa (nyt tuhannen hengen verkkokysely) ja vastaamatta jättäneiden osuuden lasku:

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Tosin myös kyselytapa, verkkolomake, saattoi saada amerikkalaiset vastaamaan aiempia puhelinkyselyitä rehellisemmin.

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VÄKIVALLAN hyväksyminen on Yhdysvalloissa enenevissä määrin jakautunut puoluekantojen mukaan. Republikaaneista ja sitoutumattomista noin 40 prosenttia sanoi väkivallan olevan joskus hyväksyttyä, demokraateista vain 23 prosenttia.

Itse asiassa väkivallan hyväksyvien osuus on kyselyn mukaan suurin juuri puolueisiin sitoutumattomissa. Mielenkiintoista, mutta artikkeli sivuuttaa tämän.

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TULOKSET heijastelevat tunnelmaa Yhdysvalloissa, arvioi The Washington Post. Trumpin väitteet vaalivilpistä, hallinnon rooli koronapandemian aikana ja mielen­osoitukset afroamerikkalaisiin kohdistuvaa poliisiväkivaltaa kohtaan ovat kuohuttaneet Yhdysvaltoja.

Väkivaltaiset mielenosoitukset, jotka ovat aiheuttaneet miljardien dollarien vahingot ja joissa on kuollut kymmeniä ihmisiä.

Washington Post: 1 in 3 Americans say violence against government can be justified, citing fears of political schism, pandemic 1.1.2022

Washington Post: Republicans and Democrats divided over Jan. 6 insurrection and Trump’s culpability, Post-UMD poll finds 1.1.2022

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Taylor Atkins, 29, who lives in Atlanta and works in health-care administration, said she “absolutely” believes it is justifiable to take arms against the government in situations where those in power use their positions to oppress Americans, particularly those of ostracized identities.

Atkins, a Democrat, described the Jan. 6 riot as “insane,” saying “there wasn’t a need for violent outrage just because the president that you wanted to didn’t win.”

But, she added: “For people of color — I’m Black — we’re actually losing our lives. We’re actually fighting over if my life is valuable.

A new mom, Atkins said she didn’t join Black Lives Matter protests during the summer of 2020 because she had a baby back home. She also said she doesn’t support looting — but often, she noted, that’s the only way demonstrators can get attention.

Atkins said she has considered arming herself for her own “protection,” especially as the pandemic continues heightening tensions between civilians and the government. She pointed to clashes in Europe last year, where thousands of civilians protesting coronavirus measures fought police across the continent.

“I feel like that’s justified because, obviously, we do all care about each other … but everybody has the right to be a person and be free and make their own decisions,” she said. “As long as they’re not truly impacting somebody else, as far as they have covid and are not going to the store and actually coughing on somebody, they should be allowed to leave their house.”

Kyselyn tuloksista selviää sellainenkin, että vaalituloksen laillisuuden kyseenalaistajia oli selvästi enemmän Trumpin (42%) ja Bushin (suurimmillaan 42%) kuin nyt Bidenin valinnan (29%) jälkeen.
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« Vastaus #10049 : 02.01.2022, 12:37:13 »
Vuosi sitten Trumpin älykkäimmät kannattajat ilmaisivat Capitolilla demokratian sanomaa :)

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Näin rekkakuski Peter, 42, päätyi hakkaamaan poliisia tähti­lipulla Trumpin puolesta – Capitolin valtauksen koko kammottava tarina
Proud Boys -päällikkö supatti jotakin naistenhakkaajan korvaan ja pian käynnistyi maailmaa tyrmistyttänyt hyökkäys demokratiaa ja Yhdysvaltain kongressia vastaan – näin Capitolin valtaus eteni vuosi sitten.

HYÖKKÄYS TULI kahdessa aallossa.

Ensimmäinen niistä tapahtui kuin varkain.

Presidentti Donald Trump piti vielä puhettaan Valkoisen talon edessä, kun puolentoista kilometrin päässä aidat jo ryskyivät. Iskulauseita huuteleva väkijoukko rynni harvalukuisten poliisilinjojen läpi Capitolin kongressirakennuksen juurelle.

Tuntia myöhemmin ensimmäiset Trumpin kannattajat tunkeutuivat sisään Yhdysvaltain lainsäädäntävallan pyhimpään. Jotkut päästivät tuhovimmansa valloilleen.

QAnon-tunnukset, MAGA-lippikset, äärioikeiston symbolit ja kapinalippu kongressirakennuksen käytävillä järkyttivät amerikkalaisia syvästi. Presidentinvaalien tuloksen vahvistaminen keskeytyi.

Viime loppiaisena tapahtunutta Capitolin valtausta on ehditty tutkia vuosi, mutta keskeisiä kysymyksiä pyöritellään yhä. Miten tämä pääsi tapahtumaan? Missä apu viipyi? Auttoiko joku valtaajia? Koordinoivatko ääriryhmät toimintaansa? Ja ennen kaikkea: mikä oli Trumpin ja hänen lähipiirinsä rooli, jos sitä oli?

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