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« Vastaus #2760 : 25.03.2019, 13:12:05 »
Ei mee Putinilla oikein putkeen. Kaikki nämä aseet on esitelty voittanattomina propagandassa, T14 "supertankki", häivehävittäjät, Mig-41 ja Suhoi-57, rajattoman kantaman ydinohjus "Skyfall". Kaikkien näiden kehitystyö on lopetettu.
Pahimmin kai floppasi tuo ohjus, "rajaton kantama" oli parhaimmillaan 35km.
www.verkkouutiset.fi/venajan-ydinohjus-floppasi-lentaa-vain-35-kilometria/
« Viimeksi muokattu: 25.03.2019, 13:14:13 kirjoittanut Faidros. »
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« Vastaus #2761 : 28.03.2019, 18:39:03 »
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Entinen maajoukkuepelaaja Pavel Pogrebnjak, 35, aiheutti ison skandaalin Komsomolskaja Pravda -lehdelle laukomallaan kommentilla.

Pogrebnjakilta kysyttiin, mitä mieltä hän on siitä, että Venäjän maajoukkueessa pelaa maan kansalaisuuden saaneita ulkomaalaisia.

– Vastustan sitä. En koe, että siinä on järkeä, nykyään Venäjän liigaa Ural Jekaterinburgissa pelaava hyökkääjä sanoi.

Venäjän passin saavat ulkomaalaislahjakkuudet ovat tuttu ilmiö maan jalkapallossa. Kansalaisuuden vuonna 2016 saanut brasilialaispuolustaja Mario Fernandes kuului Venäjän avainpelaajiin kesän 2018 MM-kisoissa.

Kesällä 2018 kansalaisuus myönnettiin pääsarjaseura Krasnodarissa pelaavalle brasilialaishyökkääjä Arille. Pogrebnjakin mukaan se oli virhe.

– En ymmärrä ollenkaan, miksi Ari sai Venäjän passin. On naurettavaa, kun tummaihoinen pelaaja edustaa Venäjän maajoukkuetta. Mario Fernandes on huippuluokan pelaaja, mutta meillä olisi hänen pelipaikalleen Igor Smolnikov. Pärjäisimme ilman ulkomaalaisiakin.

Kommentti sai urheilupiireissä tyrmistyneen vastaanoton.

Yksi ällistyneistä oli presidentti Vladimir Putinin neuvonantajana ihmisoikeusasioissa toimiva Mihail Fedotov. Fedotov kommentoi televisiokanava 360:lle, että Pogrebnjakin avautuminen ”haisee vahvasti rasismilta”.

Venäjän jalkapalloliitto oli samaa mieltä ja mätkäisi Pogrebnjakille rangaistuksena yli 3 400 euron sakot. Lisäksi hyökkääjä määrättiin ehdolliseen kilpailukieltoon kuluvan kauden loppuun. Kielto astuu voimaan, jos Pogrebnjak syyllistyy jatkossa vastaavanlaiseen toimintaan.

Liiton eettisen komitean päätöstä paikalla kuunnellut Pogrebnjak hyväksyi rangaistuksensa. Pelaaja kielsi tarkoittaneensa kommenttiaan rasistiseksi, mutta pahoitteli tekoaan.

– En halunnut loukata ketään. Pyydän anteeksi, vaisun oloinen Pogrebnjak ilmoitti venäläismedialle.
https://www.is.fi/jalkapallo/art-2000006050782.html
Patrioottisessa Venäjällä ei saa kritisoida jos maan maajoukkue täytetään ulkomailla syntyneillä n"""""llä.
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« Vastaus #2762 : 07.04.2019, 23:04:07 »
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Nikolay Leonov, a KGB lieutenant general who headed that organization’s analysis department from 1973 to 1991, says that he very much fears that Russia is at risk of losing not only Crimea, Kaliningrad and the Far East but even the Middle Volga as a result of ignorance, incautious actions and rapid demographic change.

            In the course of a long interview in which he discusses the KGB’s role in the last two decades of Soviet power, the qualities of various Soviet leaders, and the failure of the country’s political leadership to take seriously the warnings his agency issued, Leonov also talks about the situation now (eadaily.com/ru/news/2019/03/29/nikolay-leonov-ya-opasayus-za-sudbu-kryma-kaliningrada-i-primorya).

                He suggests that if anything the gulf between those who provide accurate information and analysis and those who make decisions may be even greater than it was at the end of Soviet times. As evidence of that he points to “the history with Crimea.”  That action has produced a counter-reaction that should have been considered before the decision to annex the peninsula was taken.

            Unfortunately, that didn’t happen, and the situation now is very much worrisome. “What price are we paying The real situation that exists now in the world about Russia and also the domestic conditions in the country when the temperature is gradually rising are causing me to become increasingly concerned,” the former KGB analysis chief says.

            Leonov says that he is even “concerned about the fate of certain of our territories.”

            “Kaliningrad, for example” where “time is working against us. “The population there never went to the Soviet Union and already doesn’t remember it. The oblast is gradually being drawn into relations with the West.” It already has “special relations” with Poland, Lithuania, and so on. Western leaders can see this and are getting ideas.

            “I am very much afraid as well for the territory of the Far East, the Primorsky kray. They are ever more being drawn into the orbit of China, Japan and South Korea. What ties them to Russia? The single Trans-Siberian railway? Rising prices for airline tickets are such that I don’t know who flies except on business,” Leonov continues.

            Moreover, he says, “when people tell me that in Vladivostok there is almost not a single car of Russian manufacture, I am not surprised.” The region produces for Japan and buys from japan. “Russia for the people there is very far away … what will the situation in that region be in 10 to 15 years?”

            Vladislav Surkov says that Russia can be held together by administrative means alone. But portions of the country are heading in different directions, and such “bindings” won’t be enough.  A single explosion could trigger the falling of dominos in many places. “I very much fear such a scenario,” the KGB analyst says.

            He suggests that he is also worried a bout Tatarstan and Bashkortostan. Not long ago, we experienced plans about the creation of a ‘Caucasus emirate.’ There have also been ideas about establishing a “Urals Republic,’ and the separation out of the south of Russia.” These challenges must be recognized and be countered by becoming the basis of policy.

            People are kept together by “social and economic unity,” Leonov says. “But with us in Russia the structure is becoming rickety. Therefore, I have more concerns than optimism” about the future.” Demography is working against us as well, and “when I hear that Moscow soon will be the largest Muslim city in the world, I can hardly stand it.”

            Given that people in power in Russia today experienced the end of the USSR, they should be aware of how quickly things can turn against the center, Leonov says.  But it is clear that many decisions are being made without adequate information not only about Russia’s regions but also about Russia’s neighbors.

            Trends there are also working against Moscow, but there seems to be “an information vacuum” in which decisions are being made without an adequate appreciation of realities.

            Some of Leonov’s comments may be dismissed as no more than an example of a former senior official who not unreasonably believes he and his generation did a better job of things than the current one; but the fact that he made these (and other) comments shows both just how nervous some in Moscow are and how upset they are about the way the Putin regime is acting.

            The former KGB analyst’s argument rests on the almost universally recognized principle that good analysis doesn’t guarantee good policy because that those who make policy can ignore it but that good policy in the absence of good information is almost always a random act – and not something that any leader or country can count on for long. 

http://windowoneurasia2.blogspot.com/2019/04/russia-now-at-risk-of-losing-crimea.html?m=1
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« Vastaus #2763 : 31.05.2019, 19:17:48 »
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.     BEYOND RACISM
Is Putin’s Fascination With Genetics Just Eugenics in Disguise?

MOSCOW—Russian President Vladimir Putin’s domestic propaganda campaign has been telling people to hunker down, that they need to find ways to wall off the country from the West.

They need to protect their internet by cutting it off from the global web, the Kremlin suggests, otherwise Russia’s enemies might exploit social media to undermine the state. (The irony of such proclamations will not be lost on American readers.) And now Putin is talking about a really ominous sounding threat—to the very DNA of the Russian people.

The new buzzword among Russian authorities is “biodefense,” which at its most benign may mean taking a lead in the highly lucrative development of genetic editing techniques to cure diseases, grow better crops, and the like. But at its most sinister it takes on the coloration of eugenics, the discredited “science” of the 19th and early 20th centuries that promised to create superior humans based on racial and ethnic stereotypes.

The emerging notion that genetic security is part of national security is still unclear to most Russian citizens, but already it receives lavish funding. In late April, Russian authorities approved a budget of 220 billion rubles ($3.3 billion) in order to develop new genetic technologies over the next eight years. The document published on the government’s website says that the main purpose of the program is “to decrease critical dependence of Russian science on foreign genetic and biological databases” and on foreign specialized software and other technologies.

But some see in the program the possibility to define Russian identity based on genetics.

“I have never heard Putin or anybody else in the Kremlin mention the word ‘race,’” Svetlana Gannushkina, a senior human rights defender helping migrants told The Daily Beast on Wednesday. “But once Putin said to me: ‘I agree we need migrants, but preferably well-educated Slavs of a fertile age.’”
“Putin wants to control Russian genes, genetic studies, just as much as he wants to control cyberspace.”
— Dmitry Gudkov, former member of the Russian parliament

Others go much further. There is even a group suggesting the Constitution of the Russian Federation be edited to help build a new ideology around the nation’s genes.

A member of the Russian Academy of Sciences, Taliya Khabriyeva, suggested that a new ideology should embrace “values genetically typical of Russians,” constitutionally defined. Khabriyeva’s idea provoked a wide discussion in academic circles. Sulashkin’s Center, a Moscow-based think tank working on the New Constitution project, doubted that “the identity of Russian civilization” could be called “genetic.”

Vedomosti, a respected Russian business newspaper, meanwhile reported that Maria Vorontsova, who is believed to be the eldest daughter of President Putin, is one of the new state program’s key managers. According to another report by the Russian magazine New Times, Russia’s “first daughter” Vorontsova will oversee policies for gene editing in medicine in Russia, a potentially lucrative field but also full of ethical landmines.

The state program aims to prevent and treat human diseases, although some Russian scientists still question whether gene editing is safe for people.

“What is clear as daylight,” one of the participants in the program said privately, “is that gene editing is a gold mine, a very profitable business.”

“There is a huge hype about genetic editing in Russia, mostly among billionaires,” pro-Kremlin political analyst  Yuriy Krupnov told The Daily Beast earlier this month. “One procedure costs around $1 million abroad, so it sounds like a good business, but even if Russia develops its own technology, biological big data would require much bigger investments.”

And speaking of big data, Russian policy makers now fret publicly about Russians handing over genetic data to foreign companies, such as commercial genealogy sites, to check out their ancestors. “There is a concern that Western secret services develop biological weapons, focusing on studying our DNA tests,” says Krupnov.

The Kremlin has been worried about DNA studies of the Russian population for several years. “Putin wants to control Russian genes, genetic studies, just as much as he wants to control cyberspace,” a former member of the Russian parliament, Dmitry Gudkov, told The Daily Beast.

In 2017, President Putin spoke about foreigners’ evil plans for Russia at a routine meeting of Council for Civil Society and Human Rights: “They collect biological material all over our country, of various ethnic groups, people living in different geographical points of Russian Federation, they do it purposefully and professionally.”

The nationalist tone of this talk about "Russian genes" is raising alarms. Alexander Verkhovsky, director of the SOVA Center, monitoring Russian far-right groups and hate crimes, was stunned to hear Putin's statement in 2017. “Putin’s words came out of the blue, without any introductions or explanations, as if there was a moment of insanity,” Verkhovsky, who was present at the meeting, told The Daily Beast. From Putin, he said, “We often hear conspiracy ideas but until recently his nationalist political statements have mostly focused on empowerment and reconstruction of the Russian empire rather than white supremacists’ ideas about the biology of ethnicity or race." 

It was not Putin's only remarkable comment about biology. Last October, he spoke at the Valdai Discussion Club about “very dangerous” biological weapons targeting “certain ethnic groups selectively," without elaborating. Earlier, Putin said at a meeting with Russian youth in Sochi that scientific technology capable of changing a human genome “is scarier than a nuclear bomb,” and that modern scientists could now interfere with the human genetic code. “It is quiet imaginable now: people will be able to create a new human with programmed characteristics, soon."

In fact, this preoccupation with genetic conspiracies goes way back to Soviet times. As the American author Alvin Toffler wrote almost 50 years ago in his 1970 bestseller Future Shock, the then-chief of the research laboratory of the Institute of Development Biology of the Soviet Academy of Sciences predicted that the world would “soon witness a genetic equivalent of the arms race,” and implied that the Soviet Union ought to act first.
“This preoccupation with genetic conspiracies goes way back to Soviet times.”

More recently, architects of the well-funded Russian biodefense program have been reading a book called The Genetic Bomb that openly discusses eugenics and what the author, Yuriy Bobylov, calls the risks to the white race, according to one of those involved. “The creation of a ‘super-human,’ a ‘hero,’ is possible, in principle,” Bobylov wrote, “but that is a very difficult social task.”

Last year, the government ordered Russian scientists and bureaucrats to develop a large-scale study of the so-called “Russian genome.” But Russia is not little Iceland, where the homogeneity of society opened the way for decades of groundbreaking genetic research. Russia covers the greatest land mass of any nation in the world and it is home to hundreds of ethnic and racial groups from a wide variety of European and Asian backgrounds. Not to mention more recent immigrants.

Russian newspapers reported vaguely on genetic discoveries find that “Russian genes” reflect the historic migratory patterns of  Indo-European and Uralic and Turkic peoples.

“We hear too much nonsense about ‘Russian genes’ in our multi-ethnic country,” Pavel Lobkov, a biologist who is currently a presenter on independent Rain TV, told The Daily Beast.

Nevertheless, Putin has ordered the government to provide Russians with passports by 2025 that include their genetic identification.   
https://www.thedailybeast.com/is-putins-fascination-with-genetics-just-eugenics-in-disguise?ref=scroll
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« Vastaus #2764 : 01.06.2019, 22:13:12 »
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Bill Gates innostui Suomen historiasta: ”En ollut koskaan tajunnut kysyä tätä”

Miksi Suomi on kuin Skandinavia eikä kuin Itä-Eurooppa? Microsoftin perustaja otti selvää.
Microsoftin perustaja ja maailman rikkaimpiin ihmisiin kuuluva Bill Gates suosittaa blogissaan sarjaa kirjoja kesälukemiseksi. Yksi kirjoista on Jared Diamondin Upheaval, joka kertoo tosielämän esimerkein yhteiskuntien tavoista kohdata kriisejä. Gates sanoo, että hänen suosikkiesimerkkinsä on Suomen yhteiselo Neuvostoliiton kanssa toisen maailmansodan jälkeen.

– En ollut koskaan aiemmin tajunnut kysyä tätä kysymystä, mutta miksi Suomi on kuin Skandinavia eikä kuin Itä-Eurooppa, Gates pohjustaa viitaten talvisotaan ja Neuvostoliiton hyökkäykseen.

Gates katsoo Suomella olevan vahva ainutlaatuisuuden tunne, ja maa oli päättänyt säilyttää itsenäisyytensä. Samalla tajuttiin sodan jälkeiset uudet realiteetit.

– Vaikka Suomi oli ylpeä, se oli myös realistinen. Se ymmärsi, että jos venäläiset halusivat vallata maan, he tekisivät niin, Gates kirjoittaa kirja-arviossaan.

Suomen ratkaisuna oli todistaa Neuvostoliitolle, että Suomi oli sille hyödyllisempi kumppanina kuin nukkevaltiona. Seurauksena oli paitsi taloudellinen menestys, toisaalta myös suomettuminen, eli suurvallan huomiointi päätöksenteossa.

Samalla Gates huomauttaa, että suomettumisesta puhuneet diplomaatit edustivat maita, jotka eivät koskaan auttaneet Suomea toisen maailmansodan aikana.

– Ihmeellisesti tällä tavalla Suomi ei vain säilyttänyt asemaansa itsenäisenä demokratiana, vaan myös teki itsestään korvaamattoman venäläisille länsimaisen teknologian lähteenä ja Neuvostoliiton ikkunana länteen.
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https://www.is.fi/digitoday/art-2000006124648.html

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« Vastaus #2765 : 01.06.2019, 22:37:50 »
Putler ei ole Venäjän viimeinen sana:

Prospects for the emergence of a real opposition in Russia
https://thesaker.is/prospects-for-the-emergence-of-a-real-opposition-in-russia/
Lainaus
As predicted, Putin’s popularity takes a nosedive.

This fact is not often discussed in the West, but the popularity of Vladimir Putin is in decline and has been so ever since, following his reelection, he kept more or less the same (already unpopular) government while that government very clumsily attempted to “sneak by” a pension reform undetected. Now the latest numbers are in, and they are not good: only 31.7% of Russians trust Vladimir Putin, that is his worst score in 13 years! His score last year was 47.4% (by the way, Shoigu got only 14.8%, Lavrov got 13%, and Medvedev got 7.6%. These are terrible scores by any measure!)

I have been warning about this for a while now (see here, here, here, here, here, here and here), and we now can try to understand what happened.

First, it is obvious that millions of Russians (including yours truly) were deeply disappointed that Putin did not substantially reorganize the Russian government following his triumphant reelection last year. Putin himself is on record saying two things about that: first, that he is generally happy with the performance of the government and, second, that he needs an experienced team to implement his very ambitious reform program (more about that in a moment).

Second, it is equally obvious that the pension reform is profoundly unpopular and that Putin’s personal credibility has never recovered from this political fiasco.

Third, and this is the most overlooked and yet most interesting development – there is a *real* opposition gradually emerging in Russia. What do I mean by “real”? First, I mean not a “pretend opposition” as we see in the Russian Duma (which is a glorified rubber-stamping parliament). Second, I mean a *patriotic* opposition which is neither financed nor controlled by Mr. Soros or the CIA or any of their innumerable offshoots. The problem is that this opposition has many severe problems and that it completely fails to present an alternative to the current “Putinocracy.”

Here we need to state something significant: Putin is indeed a “liberal,” at least in terms of economic policies. When he says that he is happy (“on the whole”) with the performance of the Medvedev government, it is because he probably is. Furthermore, while Putin apparently likes to listen to folks like Glaziev, he is clearly wary of implementing the more “social” (or even “socialist”) measures advocated by Glaziev and his supporters.
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« Vastaus #2766 : 23.06.2019, 14:07:07 »
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/06/21/roma-chemodanovka-ethnic-conflict-pogroms-russia-a66075

Lainaus
‘Like Pre-Revolutionary Pogroms’: Ethnic Conflicts on the Rise in Russia
For the second time in 13 months, Roma have fled a Russian village for fear of attacks.

Around 650 Roma have left Chemodanovka and Lopatka after a conflict with local Russians.

Dmitry, his wife, their five children and his elderly mother spent last weekend hiding in the woods just outside Penza, a city 650 kilometers southeast of Moscow. Whenever they needed food or water, Dmitry drove to the nearest store, bought rations and, after briefly charging his phone, hurried back to his family.

“I didn’t sleep the entire time. We wore the same clothes we left in, and I now have 500 rubles ($7.81) left in my pocket,” Dmitry, 35, said by phone on Wednesday afternoon from the neighboring region of Ulyanovsk, where the family is now staying with relatives. “I won’t take my family home until there is no longer a threat to our lives,” he added, noting he had thought the danger would subside sooner. “But all I want to do is go home.”

Dmitry (whose name has been changed) is one of the Roma minority who live in Chemodanovka and Lopatka, neighboring villages in the Penza region. Last Thursday, a mass brawl in Chemodanovka between Roma and Russians over claims Roma boys were trying to sexually harass Russian girls resulted in the death of one Russian and left another in a coma and three others in hospital.

The case is the latest in a recent spate of ethnic flare-ups across Russia that witnesses have compared to anti-Jewish pogroms at the turn of the twentieth century. This is the second time since the eve of Vladimir Putin’s inauguration last May as Russia's president for a fourth term that violence has broken out between ethnic Russians and Russia’s Roma minority. And it’s the second time this year that a huge public fight has erupted over accusations a member of a minority group has sexually harassed a member of the local majority.
An estimated 1,500 people blocked a federal highway in protest after a mass brawl in Chemodanovka. pronedra.ru

It is not entirely clear what caused the Chemodanovka conflict. Penza region governor Ivan Belozertsev on Wednesday called it a “domestic conflict” between Russians and Roma people, although he had initially blamed the United States and the West for “destabilizing the situation.”

In recent days local Russians have told journalists that the brawl started after about 15 unarmed Russian men went to speak with the Roma community last Thursday evening following claims that two Roma boys had sexually harassed two Russian girls earlier in the day by a local creek. The Russians said the Roma did not want to talk, and that around 100 others suddenly showed up with bats, axes and knives, and stabbed a Russian to death.

Dmitry said he was aware of that version of events, but that he believes the woman who complained her daughters were being sexually harassed was exaggerating because she “has long had problems” with the Roma minority. While Dmitry was at home when the conflict broke out, he also said that, as far as he understood, the Russians who had shown up to talk were drunk and had instigated the fight with the Roma, who were attempting to defend themselves.

Nadezhda Demeter, a senior Roma official, likewise put the blame on ethnic Russians in a radio interview over the weekend. When reached by phone, she declined to comment.

In the conflict’s aftermath, the Chemodamovka and Lopatka Roma people left behind 90 empty homes, along with contradicting claims as to how they departed. Speaking to a local gathering on Monday, the Russian head of the village council Sergei Fadeyev said that about 900 Roma people had been removed forcibly and taken by bus to the Volgograd region to the south. He retracted those comments a few hours later.

Fadeyev could not be reached for comment. A woman who picked up the phone at the village council offices told The Moscow Times that the council did not have Fadeyev’s contact information before hanging up. The Penza governor’s spokesperson said an estimated 650 Roma had left voluntarily. Dmitry called Fadeyev’s initial comments “lies,” saying that the Roma had fled rather than having been escorted out by the authorities.

“We would have known if this was true,” he said, noting he is in touch with other Roma people who have left. “The Russians warned one of our elders on Friday that they would come back that evening and kill all of our men. In that way we were forced to leave.”

Days before Putin’s inauguration last year, a similar conflict to the one in Chemodanovka took place in the Ust-Abakan settlement in the remote Siberian Republic of Khakassia. During an argument that turned into a fight between a Roma person and an ethnic Russian, the Russian fell backward and hit his head, resulting in his death.

Almost immediately, around 500 local Roma fled because of threats from Russians, leaving their homes behind to be ransacked. Sergei Mikheyev, a colleague of Abramenko’s at Memorial, wrote after a visit to the settlement last summer that what he saw reminded him of pictures of the Jewish pogroms of the last century.
Ei ehkä kannattaisi perseillä niin ei tulisi häätöjä.  8)
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« Vastaus #2767 : 28.06.2019, 03:32:43 »
Lainaus
Russian President Vladimir Putin said in an interview published on Thursday that liberal values were obsolete because they had been rejected by the majority of the people in Western nations.

Putin told the Financial Times newspaper that German Chancellor Angela Merkel had made a cardinal mistake by adopting a liberal policy towards immigration from the Middle East.

"The liberal idea presupposes that nothing needs to be done. The migrants can kill, plunder and rape with impunity because their rights as migrants must be protected. What rights are these? Every crime must have its punishment," Putin said in the interview.

"So, the liberal idea has become obsolete. It has come into conflict with the interests of the overwhelming majority of the population," he said.

Putin said Russia is not homophobic, but that a Western willingness to embrace homosexuality and gender fluidity seemed excessive to him.

"Traditional values are more stable and more important for millions of people than this liberal idea, which, in my opinion, is really ceasing to exist."

Putin also said he had the impression that liberal circles were set on using problems being experienced by the Catholic church to destroy the church.
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/06/27/putin-slams-obsolete-liberal-world-order-in-ft-interview-a66193
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« Vastaus #2768 : 28.06.2019, 10:37:02 »
Mies puhuu asiaa! En yhtään ihmettele miksi persut ja muut nationalistit linkitetään Putiniin. Agendahan on sama ja retoriikka kokolailla yhdenmukaista.
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  Let the corn be all one sheaf--
And the grapes be all one vine,
  Ere our children's teeth are set on edge
By bitter bread and wine.

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« Vastaus #2769 : 28.06.2019, 10:59:45 »
Putin nauraa partaansa, kun Syyrian sota synnytti pakolaisaallon Saksaan. Nyt tarvitaan uusi kaasuputki Venäjältä, jotta pakolaispoloiset eivät jäätyisi vastaanottokeskuksissa, Keski-Euroopan helteisiin.
Kun yksi ihminen kärsii harhasta, sitä sanotaan hulluudeksi. Kun monta ihmistä kärsii harhasta, sitä sanotaan uskonnoksi. -Robert M Pirsig-
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« Vastaus #2770 : 29.06.2019, 15:32:52 »
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– There are 5.1 million immigrant workers, mostly from Central Asia, in Moscow and Moscow oblast, where they form roughly one-quarter of the population, and 3.3 million of them in St. Petersburg and Leningrad Oblast, where they form nearly half, Russian government statistics show.

            But because such numbers are explosive in the current economic and political situation, the Moscow authorities have claimed that the number of new immigrant workers from Central Asia is falling when in fact it is going up, Aleksandr Shustov says (ritmeurasia.org/news--2019-06-26--migracija-iz-srednej-azii-priobretaet-ugrozhajuschie-masshtaby-43461).

                A major reason why the regime is able to make such claims, the commentator says, is that statistics about immigration are maintained not by one agency but by two.  Rosstat maintains the figures for permanent immigrants, while the interior ministry’s chief administration for migration does so for temporary ones.

                Rosstat thus counts all migrants who have come to Russia and remained there for nine months or more while the interior ministry counts only those who have been there less than nine months. In the last year, the figure for the first of these categories has fallen from 211,900 to 124,900 while that for the second has shot up by 800,000 to 12.7 million.

            Over the last year, there has always been a shift in the most important donor countries.  The number of immigrant workers from Moldova, Ukraine, Kyrgyzstan, Armenia and Georgia has fallen by 96,200; while the number from Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Belarus, Azerbaijan and the Baltic countries has gone up by a total of 864,300.

            The greatest increases between 2017 and 2018 came from Uzbekistan, up 416,800, and Tajikistan, up, 224,200. As a result, the face of immigration in Russia is increasingly Central Asian, with people from those countries amounting to 8.5 million, a number far larger than the entire population of St. Petersburg.

            Indeed, the total number of migrant workers from Kyrgyzstan – 877,000 – is greater than the population of Karelia, Nizhny Novgorod, Pskov, or Murmansk oblast.

                Theoretically, those registered as being in Russia for nine months or less leave, but that is not always the case, Shustov continues. Many remain but are not counted by either service.  And interior ministry officials say there are approximately two million “illegal migrants” who have stayed longer (rg.ru/2018/12/21/v-mvd-nazvali-chislo-nelegalnyh-migrantov-v-rossii.html).

            Most of these “illegals” are Central Asians, and that means that people from Central Asia in Russia now number as many as 10 million, twice the population of St. Petersburg and a figure comparable to that of Moscow. Adding to them are about 1.3 million new arrivals from the Transcaucasus.

            Almost a third of all these migrants are in Moscow and Moscow oblast and a fifth are in St. Petersburg and Leningrad oblast, while in most other parts of the country, the number of Central Asians is extremely small.  Thus, in the current climate of intensifying ethnic conflicts and economic stringency, their presence is becoming a serious problem.

            And that explains why officials prefer to talk about the decline of one kind of immigrant – those seeking permanent residence – and to ignore the other and more numerous kind – those who at least in terms of registration are short timers and will be going back to their homelands soon.

            Unfortunately, Shustov concludes, “if migration policy is not changed, new political and economic cataclysms, connected with the growing influx of labor migrants from the Asian countries of the CIS are practically inevitable,” given that population in those countries is growing while that in the Russian Federation is falling.
http://windowoneurasia2.blogspot.com/2019/06/immigrants-now-form-one-quarter-of.html?m=1
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« Vastaus #2771 : 30.06.2019, 17:08:09 »
Putin on imperialisti eikä nationalisti. Imperialisti haluaa pitää valtion laajana piittaamatta sen etnisestä koostumuksesta, nationalisti vaatii jokaiselle kansalle omaa valtiota. Putin muistuttaa enemmän Amerikan cuckservatiiveja, jotka kannattavat laitonta muuttoa Meksikosta halvan työvoiman toivossa. Samasta syystä Putin haluaa pitää Kaukasian ei-venäläiset muslimialueet tiukasti kiinni Venäjässä.

Ei kannata uskoa nationalistiksi itseään kutsuvia suurvaltajohtajia yhtään sen enempää kuin itseään "liberaaliksi" tituleeraavia.

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